Posted by mpitt76 on 4/26/2011 5:13:00 PM (view original):
Posted by jmcraven74 on 4/26/2011 3:51:00 PM (view original):
It's pathetic that the all-time HR leader and the all-time hits leader won't be in the HOF. Of course, there's no reason not to let Rose in the HOF as a player, except that Selig wants to prove his is bigger. I hope this is Selig's legacy: an egomaniacal fool that turned his back on the integrity of the game in order to save it from the catastrophy he helped create.
That's not the reason Rose isn't in the Hall of Fame. Rose isn't in because he gambled on Baseball games. And as we've seen through 100 years of history, you can take take drugs, steriods, juice the ball, beat your wife and none of that matters. Baseball's #1 evil is gambling on the game. Baseball has been very clear of that throughout it's history. Whether you disagree with gambling being that high on the list is inconsequential. That's what the institution of Baseball has said and that's what they will follow through with.
Yes Selig helped create the steroids mess, but it is the players and their representatives who allowed steriods in the game. If they had ever come to the table and said test us, that would have been it. The owners couldn't have negotiated against them, and it would have ended right there. Yes, the owners and Selig turned a blind eye to what was going on. But to get steroids out of the game, they would have had to lock out the players, withhold paychecks and cancel games. Would that have been worth it? Up to you.
Selig added the wild card...you can get on him for that one...but not really the other two...
I understand your point, but that's why I said, "there's no reason not to let Rose in the HOF
as a player." He has only been shown to have gambled while managing, not as a player. It's no secret that Selig detests Rose personally.
Obviously there are many opinions on Rose, but I am of the opinion that unless you prove he cheated or gambled as a player, he deserves to be in. Should he be banned from ever working in MLB again? yeah, probably so.
As for the steriods thing, we have differing opinions there, too. Selig could have been proactive (I remember during the '98 homerun chase when McGwire was being interviewed in front of his locker and somebody questioned the bottle of androstenedione he had on the shelf in plain sight, and Selig did nothing to investigate), but Selig chose to approach the issue like an owner and not like a commissioner. Yeah, yeah- his family, not Bud, owned the Brewers until 2004 (end of the steriod era? hmmm), and he was completely impartial... right.
Speaking of the Wild Card- if they add a second WC in each league, I may be done... that might well be the last straw for me and MLB.