Proximity's effect on recruiting Topic

ejectgoose
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I remember reading about this somewhere but couldn't track it down--something about if a potential pull-down  recruit is within 70 miles, the school is able to recruit him as if he is already at the school's level?

Can someone verify/debunk this/? And does it apply regardless of a school's prestige?  For example, if a C prestige D3 team is 60 miles from a D2 recruit, would they theoretically be able to sign this recruit--or would they need to have higher prestige to have a chance?

 


10/15/2012 10:24 AM
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I don't know if it's still the case, since I haven't played D3 in a while, and it's been a few months since I played D2, and when I did I was in Northern California where there are very few recruits that are that close. But from what I remember when recruits were 70 miles or closer it made it easier to pull them down, but didn't necessarily mean that you were able to recruit them immediately. 
10/15/2012 10:42 AM
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Sometimes you can recruit them immediately, but it's not guaranteed.  Don't just go sending them HVs, call first and find out.
10/15/2012 11:05 AM
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is it a correct assumption that an A prestige D3 school would be more likely to be able to recruit a D2 recruit within 70 miles than a B prestige school?
10/15/2012 11:14 AM
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I don't think so.  My understanding is that inside 70 miles, every school is able to recruit any player a level above that would ever be recruitable by a team at the same level.  More simply, it a D2 player would ever be able to be recruited by any D3 team, then a team inside 70 will be able to recruit that player regardless of the team's prestige.

10/15/2012 11:34 AM
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Thanks, ike. So 70 miles is the magical distance within which this can happen... at 80 miles, all bets are off?
10/15/2012 11:50 AM
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Take a look at this thread, goose.

http://whatifsports.com/forums/Posts.aspx?TopicID=451694&ThreadID=9781363#l_9781363

I don't know, maybe I'm wrong.  I know I've read that somewhere from an elite coach, but others seem to disagree in the linked thread.
10/15/2012 11:55 AM
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one more question as I found this quite interesting--let's say 2 schools start to recruit the same player. One is an A prestige, the other a B prestige. However, the recruit is 70 miles from the B prestige team and 300 miles from the A prestige team. The B prestige team would obviously have the financial advantage, spending less per CV/HV/SV than the A prestige team. But once the recruiting starts, and a battle starts between two teams for this recruit, proximity doesn't provide any further advantage to the B prestige team (other than just the initial ability for the school to actually recruit him given the 70 mile distance), and the A prestige team would enjoy a recruiting advantage by virtue of its higher prestige as usual?
10/15/2012 11:55 AM
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But to answer your second question, 70 is the number.
10/15/2012 11:56 AM
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Posted by ejectgoose on 10/15/2012 11:55:00 AM (view original):
one more question as I found this quite interesting--let's say 2 schools start to recruit the same player. One is an A prestige, the other a B prestige. However, the recruit is 70 miles from the B prestige team and 300 miles from the A prestige team. The B prestige team would obviously have the financial advantage, spending less per CV/HV/SV than the A prestige team. But once the recruiting starts, and a battle starts between two teams for this recruit, proximity doesn't provide any further advantage to the B prestige team (other than just the initial ability for the school to actually recruit him given the 70 mile distance), and the A prestige team would enjoy a recruiting advantage by virtue of its higher prestige as usual?

Right.  Proximity itself wouldn't give any more advantage unless the recruit wanted to "stay close to home," but I don't think that would mean much in this battle.  The only advantage based on proximity would be the financial one gained from it.

10/15/2012 11:59 AM
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so if a recruit within 70 miles still shows up as a D2 recruit (I'm a D3 school), does that mean I will have to recruit him as a normal pull-down?
10/16/2012 10:46 AM
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Not always, but sometimes.  Only way to know is send a scout.  Or you could just throw a couple HVs his way and see if he accepts.  I suppose you run the risk of him accepting and not being recruitable, but I've never had that happen.  Safest way is to send the scout.  That way you know exactly what he needs to be recruited, assuming he can be recruited (it's still possible he can't be pulled down).
10/16/2012 11:20 AM
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safest way is actually just calling the kid or his coach
10/16/2012 12:21 PM
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Posted by jdno on 10/16/2012 12:21:00 PM (view original):
safest way is actually just calling the kid or his coach
Yeah, totally agree.  Sorry.  Definitely distracted when I was writing that.
10/16/2012 12:23 PM
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Posted by ejectgoose on 10/15/2012 11:14:00 AM (view original):
is it a correct assumption that an A prestige D3 school would be more likely to be able to recruit a D2 recruit within 70 miles than a B prestige school?
I think the answer to this is yes.
10/16/2012 12:47 PM
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