Posted by ettaexpress on 3/24/2014 3:09:00 AM (view original):
I know you're trying to draw me back into an argument so you can no doubt blame the confrontation on me, but I'm not having it. I did nothing "WRONG". Not. One. Thing.

And here's proof.

First page of the thread, Gillispie and colonels fumble around trying to figure out if there are any perfect brackets left. After they ineptly get nowhere, I see the thread and post that no, the entire country isn't busted yet. Colonels can't imagine thta I actually know something he doesn't and claims that I made it up, saying "Yeah, you don't know". But I did know, because I actually learned how to use my thumbs to manipulate a Web site quite a while ago. Darnoc then comes in right behind that and posts an article that contradicts my CORRECT information. This is key, because obviously he didn't bother to verify it on the site, or ask anyone how to do so. I was RIGHT and had completely cleared up the question. The thread could well have ended right there, or with billyg's "oh cool, where did you find that?" post. That's what SHOULD have happened. But darnoc screwed that up by introducing erroneous and unverified information that was, and this is important, completely WRONG.

And yeah, I'm annoyed at this point because there was no reason for colonels to say what he said (obviously he didn't know what he was talking about) or darnoc to post what he posted with no discussion whatsoever (because obviously he didn't know what he was talking about either). It's all on them, not me. So complain to or about them, not me.

Then I'm called a hypocrite, someone else tries to act like they're my mother, darnoc calls me "killer" as if I'm an attack dog and then tries to defend HIS mistake to which he still has not owned up, even though it was the CAUSE of all of this. Then after a few posts of basically nothing, I'm accused of doing something wrong by someone who comes out of nowhere and wasn't involved in the debate at all, thereby escalating things. There was no reason for debater to even be involved except to be confrontational. And then the narrative that I was the villain is set and that's what I'm fighting against for the last 2 1/2 pages.

So I ask you, where's the "popping my chest out" in any of that? Complete misrepresentation of events. You see what you want to see, or you claim to see what you want others to think you saw. 

I kept saying i was right because it's important to recognize that the darnoc's attempt to contradict my information was completely unnecessary and if he'd bothered to do his homework (or ask me for mine), then everything is beautiful -- except my bracket, that's ugly.

Millwood should have been lecturing darnoc on how he should have handled the situation, not me. But since the stock narrative on the board is that everything is my fault, that didn't happen and we are where we are, which is with you trying to keep alive an argument that I've stated my desire to end.

its telling you would refer to anything in this post as "proof"... 

Posted by ettaexpress on 3/23/2014 4:50:00 PM (view original):
How is providing misinformation a contribution? He confused a situation that was already straight.

I provided all the information. The only reason there was even a discussion from there is because darnoc didn't think I knew what I was talking about. 

HE. WAS. WRONG. That is fact.

Done with this thread. It's turned into a bunch of cronies attacking the new guy...just like before and I ended up getting blamed and banned for it.

then why did you post a narcissistic page-long rant shortly after?

what you seem to be forgetting etta, is that the world doesn't revolve around you. darnoc either didn't see or didn't care about your post (or maybe he had you blocked, another perfectly reasonable hypothesis), and so he posted a reply. you had also posted, true. you were right. is anybody debating that? i have to admit, i haven't read the last 5 pages of petty nonsense very closely. but i certainly didn't see it. so seemingly, nobody is suggesting you were even wrong, in your original post - its you who insists someone else is wrong, by making their post, when they weren't even responding to you. you started the fuss, after which all this noise ensued. i don't know why you try to spin it into something more complicated than that - but its not. if you could realize for a second here, that its not all about you - that darnoc was not even talking to you - i think you could see how ridiculous this all is.

its also far from "a bunch of cronies attacking the new guy". half the people vocally against you can't get along with each other - until you show up! you are a bit like napoleon in europe :) more importantly, once again, you try to make everything about you (a bunch of cronies attack the new guy). its not about you. sorry.

Why is it important that darnoc take responsibility for posting a link to an article that at the time it was written was correct.  That is all he did.  Anyone with half a brain can figure out that the number of correct brackets is going to be an ever-changing number until it reaches 0 or the tournament is over.  

Your other issues...you have developed an adversarial relationship with colonels.  I don't know whose fault that is.  Doesn't matter.  We all have those folks in our lives who aren't going to believe us no matter what we say.  If colonels had posted a fact about something that you didn't know, you would probably want someone else to verify it before accepting it as the gospel truth as well.

Posted by ettaexpress on 3/24/2014 3:51:00 AM (view original):
All of this, and no one yet has called other than me has called for darnoc to admit he was wrong to post information that contradicted my correct statement, and especially to do it without even asking me where I got said information. 

Really all this comes down to is a couple of dopes that weren't smart enough to find something on the Billion Dollar Bracket site. I tried to help them. No good deed goes unpunished, I guess. I'll be sure not to try to help anyone on the board in the future.

And this is where you are WRONG WRONG WRONG.  Don't you know what WRONG is?  There is no reason for you to call out anyone as a couple of dopes when they simply asked a simple question.  Your "help" in this case was fine.  The baggage that comes with it is not.

Again, there is no need for darnoc to admit he was wrong.  He found an article pertinent to the subject and posted it.  As I said before, all of us are perfectly capable of realizing that the number was subject to change as games were being played.  In fact the important information to the original poster was that the answer was not 0.  It didn't matter if it was 6 or 16.  

The important thing that I want you to realize is that being right about some fact is far less important than the way you treat people.  Demanding that someone issue a public apology for such an insignificant inaccuracy is just silly.  Calling out someone as a dope for asking a question on a message board is totally unnecessary.  Continually bad-mouthing a game that you continue to play is pointless.  The fact that many coaches have excellent records at this game tells me that there is a strategy to it that can be figured out.  I haven't yet figured it out.  But, I certainly don't belittle the advice given by those who have.

So when you say you have done nothing wrong...Not. One. Thing.  I offer up the above paragraph.  It details 3 things that I believe you have done wrong.  Two of them in this thread.  And the 3rd had a serious affect on how you are viewed by most of us commenting in this thread.

Posted by ettaexpress on 3/24/2014 3:47:00 AM (view original):

Posted by crwkmw123 on 3/24/2014 3:37:00 AM (view original):
Why is it important that darnoc take responsibility for posting a link to an article that at the time it was written was correct.  That is all he did.  Anyone with half a brain can figure out that the number of correct brackets is going to be an ever-changing number until it reaches 0 or the tournament is over.  

Your other issues...you have developed an adversarial relationship with colonels.  I don't know whose fault that is.  Doesn't matter.  We all have those folks in our lives who aren't going to believe us no matter what we say.  If colonels had posted a fact about something that you didn't know, you would probably want someone else to verify it before accepting it as the gospel truth as well.

Who cares about the time it was written? It was once correct that the fastest Indy 500 was less than 100 mph average. If someone asked "what's the fastest Indy 500 speed", would that be correct today?

I don't have an adversarial relationship with colonels because for that to happen, I'd have to care about anything he says. I really can't think of a time where he's made a board contribution that gave me a reason to do that. He may have an adversarial view of me...you'd have to ask him.

So, good job trying to invent an issue where none exists.

You are missing my point about the adversarial relationship with colonels.  You have actually made my point.  I realize you don't care about anything he says.  He obviously has the same feeling towards you.  Therefore he made the comment he made.  Had he posted an answer to a question of yours, you likely would have given the same type of response.  Or, at the very least waited for confirmation that he was correct.  You certainly wouldn't have blindly accepted the answer as gospel.