Newbie Needs Advice for Depth Chart, Playing Time Topic

distribution, and practice plan.

Basically, everything in season prep.

My first super young roster, and I'm a bit lost as to how to maximize what humble skills these guys bring to the table. And yes, I know I recruited no-IQ guys for my offense. My options were--how you say--limited.

Thanks in advance for anyone generous to help out on this.

tcp

5/10/2014 2:55 AM
 First of all, your team is VERY young and likely won't win more than 3 games. So ,forget about the upperclassmen and develop your freshmen. They'll improve faster with starts and minutes. 
 I'd redshirt O'Donnel.  He'll be of more use to you next year when you have a more experienced team. He'll pitch a fit and his WE will probably drop to '1'. But he's probably as good as he's going to get so the WE drop won't hurt much.

My lineup:
PG- Westerberg, Lightly
SG- Williams, Crooker
SF-  Johnson, Eisenbarth
PF/C- Butenbaugh and Hoff in some order
          Losada and Simon as backups.

YOu could also platoon Johnson and Eisembarth so each of them get an equal # of starts.

For your 3rd team lineup, reverse Westerberg and Williams.  Reverse Butenbaugh and Hoff. This will get them more minutes in blowouts.  At SF, I'd use the freshman with the fewest minutes.;  
 
 I never set a 4th team lineup

 I generally practice 20 minutes on OFF and 25 on DEF. Other coaches will see it differently.

Practice plan:
  Concentrate on the necessary skills at each position.  If they're already in the 'red', you can set each position for 7 minutes without harm. You can do LP and PER at 3 or 4.   Don't go over 25 minutes of each skill unless it's the only one that's not already maxed.

 I do 12 minutes on FT unless they're 'red'...then I do 8 minutes

 Categories that are below '10' won't improve much. You can go '0' or '1' with those

5/10/2014 9:04 AM (edited)
Is O'Donnell good enough to bother redshirting? Wouldn't you rather just have the scholarship next year?
5/10/2014 10:22 AM
Posted by ettaexpress on 5/10/2014 10:22:00 AM (view original):
Is O'Donnell good enough to bother redshirting? Wouldn't you rather just have the scholarship next year?
You're right..  I was just obscessed with redshirting a senior
5/10/2014 11:30 AM (edited)
Posted by tcplotts on 5/10/2014 2:55:00 AM (view original):
distribution, and practice plan.

Basically, everything in season prep.

My first super young roster, and I'm a bit lost as to how to maximize what humble skills these guys bring to the table. And yes, I know I recruited no-IQ guys for my offense. My options were--how you say--limited.

Thanks in advance for anyone generous to help out on this.

tcp

My $0.02 (which is probably all it's worth!):

PG: Leighty / Westerberg / Croker / Eisenbarth
SG: Westerberg / Croker / Losada / Leighty
SF: Eisenbarth / Williams / Losada / Croker
PF: Buterbaugh / Simons / Losada / Williams
C: Hoff / Buterbaugh / Johnston / Simons

I agree with Alblack that O'Donnell could be safely redshirted, even given that he's going to ***** about it. He could at least be a useful "bridge" player next season.

With your practice plan, depending upon the WE of each player, the "7 minute minimum for maintenance" rule doesn't necessarily apply. If they're over 50 WE, you can safely drop that number to at LEAST 5 and probably even to 4, freeing up minutes to practice other skills. Also, once I get the "maxed out" message from my assistant coach, I always drop the player's practice minutes to "1", which lets me know they maxed out in that skill. You could use "0", but I like "1" because it differentiates between the categories I'm ignoring (say, a PG who is only at 3 REB, that I've set at "0") and one that has actually been maxed out.

For Offense & Defense practice, I go 20/20, unless there's an imbalance between my team's O/D IQs, at which point, I tweak that ratio. I've never gone further with the tweaking than 27/13 when I'm putting 40 minutes into team practice. (I do lower team practice to 18/18 or even 15/15, when I have teams laden with upper classmen, but that's a discussion for a different time.)

I've had decent success at rebuilding programs with the basic season prep above, so take it for whatever you think its worth.
5/10/2014 10:55 AM
Posted by alblack56 on 5/10/2014 10:55:00 AM (view original):
Posted by ettaexpress on 5/10/2014 10:22:00 AM (view original):
Is O'Donnell good enough to bother redshirting? Wouldn't you rather just have the scholarship next year?
You're probably right..  I was just obscessed with redshirting a senior
I like the redshirting idea, simply because it frees "Bigs" minutes for the younger guys, while keeping a potentially somewhat useful reserve for next season.
5/10/2014 10:57 AM
I just don't see the point. Is he going to make a difference on a team next year? If not, then let him go and recruit someone that hopefully will make a difference in the future. Just seems like depriving yourself of an opportunity.
5/10/2014 11:05 AM
I'd be inclined to redshirt a freshman and break up that class a little bit.
5/10/2014 11:10 AM
Posted by llamanunts on 5/10/2014 11:10:00 AM (view original):
I'd be inclined to redshirt a freshman and break up that class a little bit.
This would probably work better than redshirting the senior. In that case, it would only change my proposed depth chart in that you'd plug the SR in on the 3rd or 4th lines for whatever freshman big was redshirted.
5/10/2014 11:12 AM
Posted by llamanunts on 5/10/2014 11:10:00 AM (view original):
I'd be inclined to redshirt a freshman and break up that class a little bit.
It also gives the coach 4 schollies worth of money to recruit with next season, given the fact that one of the freshmen is a walkon. The more I think about this, the more I agree that redshirting one of the freshman bigs makes more sense.
5/10/2014 11:14 AM
I would red shirt the freshmen with the most blue and highest we. O'Donnell is bad and will be bad next year too. Let him go.
5/10/2014 11:15 AM
Posted by Trentonjoe on 5/10/2014 11:15:00 AM (view original):
I would red shirt the freshmen with the most blue and highest we. O'Donnell is bad and will be bad next year too. Let him go.
Yeah, his ratings are very strange, looking closer at them.
5/10/2014 11:24 AM
agree with TJ, no way i'd redshirt one of those seniors, its best to redshirt your freshman who will be best for the team (preferably, a guy who will be a high scorer), so that you can be in better shape for the future. this is gonna be a rough season no matter what you do, better to focus on the long haul.
5/10/2014 11:24 AM
Oh for crying out loud...agree with TJ? I'm the one that said it first. It's the 3rd damn post in the thread.

Credit where it's due, please.
5/10/2014 11:28 AM
Posted by ettaexpress on 5/10/2014 11:28:00 AM (view original):
Oh for crying out loud...agree with TJ? I'm the one that said it first. It's the 3rd damn post in the thread.

Credit where it's due, please.
TJ had two suggestions. I think he was agreeing with the advice about which freshman to redshirt.
5/10/2014 11:34 AM
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