Posted by shoe3 on 1/17/2015 12:57:00 AM (view original):

Granted it was D3, but this guy did ok by his senior year. www.whatifsports.com/hd/PlayerHistory/Ratings.aspx

I think it's a mistake to completely write-off any player who has elite potential on either side of the ball. Heck, Holley even managed a steal per game in zone defense. 

that guy has 97 spd to 80+ for op, his def is 35 not 22, and its D3...

OPs player is a D2 liability. 

Posted by zorzii on 1/16/2015 3:21:00 PM (view original):
He Will be prolly 22 ath, 22 def, 80+ speed, 100 per, 80+ bh as a senior. Passing 50 ish

I don't play in Div-3.  In Div-2, I don't even look at players who will not be at least 50 on DEF.  So that would be 40 with black, 25 with Blue, or 50 with Red on DEF as a recruit.  At Div-1, you want guys with at least 70 DEF.

WRT ATH, I would take a Guard who had a lower ATH, as long he has good SPD.

In the aejones thread on how to win at d2/d3, he says ATH+SPD should be 120 for guards.  I don't really look at that specifically, but I do something similar to player roles.  Looking at most of my D-2 teams though, almost all my guards are > 120 for ATH+SPD .. and the lowest projected ATH for any guard is 39 and his speed is projected at 95.

i thought jonesys guidelines were 120 for d3 and 140 for d2?

Posted by oldave on 1/17/2015 12:54:00 PM (view original):
i thought jonesys guidelines were 120 for d3 and 140 for d2?

Right .. that is his guide, 120 for d3 and add 20 for d2.

I don't know if this is in his guide but depending on what guard position the combination of 120/140 might be different for example a 50 ath 70 spd would be better than a 60/60 ath/spd at playing pg assuming bh/pas are same.