I don't claim to know everything about D3 here but from what I see is that there were 62 teams in there a NT this yr and that the first couple rounds are played at the lower seeds court. I'd like to see the first 4 rounds in the NT here be played at the lower seeds court. This would reward teams for having a great reg season and help eliminate 15 and 16 seeds upsetting 1 and 2 seeds. From my experience I think home court gives 3-5 pt edge. For example I beat a team by 2 at home this yr but lost by 1 in conference tourney.

No nothing will ever be perfect, but when $ is on the line and time invested, I'd like to see good teams get a reward or bonus for having a great reg season. I think home court advantage through first 4 rounds would be a good bonus for that.

In NCAA DIII, home court is used until the Final Four.  But, here, I think getting to play the worst teams is reward enough for a good regular season

I don't even like the NCAA D1's pod system, which allows the top teams to play close to home.  But, historically, the NCAA brackets have bugged me, especially in the era where the tournament was played on campus sites.   In UCLA's run of titles, twice they played the Final Four on UCLA's home court.  And three other times, UCLA hosted the West Regional 

  In addition, teams were seeded geographically.  UCLA was able to advance to the Final Four by defeating what would be considered mid-major teams today. There were no decent DI conferences in the West except the Pac-10.  Here's a partial list of UCLA's Elite Eight opponents...Pacific, Santa Clara (twice) , Utah St, Long Beach (twice), and San Francisco (twice).

  In 1958, Kentucky won the title by winning two games in Lexington, with the finals in Louisville. 

 in 1969 or 1970, Al McGuire was so angry over having to play at Kentucky that he boycotted the NCAA the following year and went to the NIT instead.

I like the idea of getting it to the highest seed... but here how D3 currently works.  Let's just play with 64 teams (though in real life two of the #1 seeds get a "bye").  Of the 64 teams on opening weekend, they are divided into a four team tourney at a certain place, much like D1 on Opening Weekend.  So, in each region you would have the mini tournaments of 1 v 16 and 8 v 9, 2 v 15 and 7 v 10, 3 v 14 and 6 v 11, 4 v 13 and 5 v 12.  Now what you are saying is you want that top seed to have the home court advantage.  The catch is in D3, if you are the lower seed in that "Opening Weekend" then you host ALL of Opening Weekend.  So you could very well have 4 hosting 13 and a neutral game with 5 vs 12.  So four has the HCA the first two games.  The problem is sometimes that four seed loses and then you have 5 playing 13.  This should be a neutral game in real life because realistically it is still ar the #4 seeds court.  But in your example you want #5 to have the home court advantage, which isn't fair to the 13 seed who just beat the "home team" to earn the right of a neutral game.  Hope this makes sense.

Posted by jaymc2007 on 4/29/2015 2:00:00 PM (view original):
I like the idea of getting it to the highest seed... but here how D3 currently works.  Let's just play with 64 teams (though in real life two of the #1 seeds get a "bye").  Of the 64 teams on opening weekend, they are divided into a four team tourney at a certain place, much like D1 on Opening Weekend.  So, in each region you would have the mini tournaments of 1 v 16 and 8 v 9, 2 v 15 and 7 v 10, 3 v 14 and 6 v 11, 4 v 13 and 5 v 12.  Now what you are saying is you want that top seed to have the home court advantage.  The catch is in D3, if you are the lower seed in that "Opening Weekend" then you host ALL of Opening Weekend.  So you could very well have 4 hosting 13 and a neutral game with 5 vs 12.  So four has the HCA the first two games.  The problem is sometimes that four seed loses and then you have 5 playing 13.  This should be a neutral game in real life because realistically it is still ar the #4 seeds court.  But in your example you want #5 to have the home court advantage, which isn't fair to the 13 seed who just beat the "home team" to earn the right of a neutral game.  Hope this makes sense.

This yr, I saw a team win at a teams court in first round and was away the next round still. I would agree to leave at 64 instead of 62. I would disagree with the other person in regards to having a lower seed being a good enough reward. I've seen to many teams like 16-15 make NT cause of their SoS. That puts them as a high seed. They set up those low seeds for to tough of games in 1st and second rd.

Home court would give a slight advantage which most low seeds deserve and get it real life, but game still has to be played and upsets would happen, but not as often.

Posted by whitey34 on 4/29/2015 2:27:00 PM (view original):

Posted by jaymc2007 on 4/29/2015 2:00:00 PM (view original):
I like the idea of getting it to the highest seed... but here how D3 currently works.  Let's just play with 64 teams (though in real life two of the #1 seeds get a "bye").  Of the 64 teams on opening weekend, they are divided into a four team tourney at a certain place, much like D1 on Opening Weekend.  So, in each region you would have the mini tournaments of 1 v 16 and 8 v 9, 2 v 15 and 7 v 10, 3 v 14 and 6 v 11, 4 v 13 and 5 v 12.  Now what you are saying is you want that top seed to have the home court advantage.  The catch is in D3, if you are the lower seed in that "Opening Weekend" then you host ALL of Opening Weekend.  So you could very well have 4 hosting 13 and a neutral game with 5 vs 12.  So four has the HCA the first two games.  The problem is sometimes that four seed loses and then you have 5 playing 13.  This should be a neutral game in real life because realistically it is still ar the #4 seeds court.  But in your example you want #5 to have the home court advantage, which isn't fair to the 13 seed who just beat the "home team" to earn the right of a neutral game.  Hope this makes sense.

This yr, I saw a team win at a teams court in first round and was away the next round still. I would agree to leave at 64 instead of 62. I would disagree with the other person in regards to having a lower seed being a good enough reward. I've seen to many teams like 16-15 make NT cause of their SoS. That puts them as a high seed. They set up those low seeds for to tough of games in 1st and second rd.

Home court would give a slight advantage which most low seeds deserve and get it real life, but game still has to be played and upsets would happen, but not as often.

Away in the second round?  Or the third and fourth, because the Sweet 16 and Elite 8 are re-done as that "four team" bracket is again at the lower seed.

2nd. It said @ on the schedule. Now maybe the lower seed is just listed as home cause it could see the exact location. Either way it would be simple for whatif to design engine to fit my proposal.

In real life the team is awarded home game (at least in part) to help sell tickets. Neutral site games might not make as much money. Since that is not a consideration here I see no need to act like it is.

Posted by mike1004 on 4/29/2015 8:25:00 PM (view original):
In real life the team is awarded home game (at least in part) to help sell tickets. Neutral site games might not make as much money. Since that is not a consideration here I see no need to act like it is.

+1

DII & DIII in real life is set up with 8 regions, and each region has one host school. the host is typically awarded to the top ranked team in each of the 8 NCAA regions. The region winners go to the Elite Eight at either a predetermined neutral site (for most sports) or to one of the 8 campuses to win their region and who put in a bid to host nationals. If there were 62 instead of 64 teams in this year's D3 field, it's because two of the regions only had 7 teams that met the requirements for NCAA play (or one of the regions only had 6 meet the requirements).

Football is a little different in that playoffs are hosted on campuses until the championship game

Posted by deer454 on 4/30/2015 1:52:00 PM (view original):
DII & DIII in real life is set up with 8 regions, and each region has one host school. the host is typically awarded to the top ranked team in each of the 8 NCAA regions. The region winners go to the Elite Eight at either a predetermined neutral site (for most sports) or to one of the 8 campuses to win their region and who put in a bid to host nationals. If there were 62 instead of 64 teams in this year's D3 field, it's because two of the regions only had 7 teams that met the requirements for NCAA play (or one of the regions only had 6 meet the requirements).

Football is a little different in that playoffs are hosted on campuses until the championship game

D1 had 68 teams, D2 64, and D3 62.  Always (until they decide to change again).  But D3 doesn't fluctuate depending on who completed requirements, they are set on a field of 62 every year.

you're right, two regions have 7 with top seed getting bye, d3 also has three sites along the way as opposed to d2 with eight 8-team regions and an 8-team elite eight.  And D3 splits their regions up a little bit, too, unlike D2. 

my bad, I'm way more familiar with D2 than D3!

Posted by deer454 on 4/30/2015 3:54:00 PM (view original):
you're right, two regions have 7 with top seed getting bye, d3 also has three sites along the way as opposed to d2 with eight 8-team regions and an 8-team elite eight.  And D3 splits their regions up a little bit, too, unlike D2. 

my bad, I'm way more familiar with D2 than D3!

No problem!  I work in D3 sports so, I have to know a little bit!  D2 I have no idea! lol.  But sounds like you for sure know what you are talking about!

I'm more knowledgeable about D2 than D3.    As was stated,  D2 has 8 regions. The top 8 teams in each region qualify for the NT and face each other in 8-team tournaments. This makes for some tense conference re-matches in the regional battles. 

D3 also had 8 regions but the top teams in each region don't necessarily qualify for the NT.  This season, they picked 9 teams from the NE Region but only 2 from the East region and 4 other regions. 

There were some teams selected that weren't ranked at all in the final regional rankings. I assume they won their CT but i'm not sure of their  natural regions. 

alblack, I thought D3 used to have a regional model like D2, when and why the change, if you know? jaymc maybe you know...

Posted by deer454 on 4/30/2015 4:49:00 PM (view original):
alblack, I thought D3 used to have a regional model like D2, when and why the change, if you know? jaymc maybe you know...

Good question, and please don't quote me on this.  I believe that the 62 team started in 2012 and the "mini tourney" I talked about with a host school for the first two rounds, the home court advantage, started in 2014... maybe?  I believe they followed the model you know it by before that.