Every year, I consider taking a D1 job. But every year, i look at the rosters of every BCS (RIP) conference school and change my mind. The rosters are too......similar. Seems like every team is awesome, and the difference between 1 and 64 is a hair. 
Curious as to others' thoughts, especially those who prefer D1. How come? 

People have mentioned that here before. I'd love to eventually get to D1, but like you, that makes me rethink it a bit.

Posted by ab90 on 7/21/2015 5:32:00 PM (view original):
Every year, I consider taking a D1 job. But every year, i look at the rosters of every BCS (RIP) conference school and change my mind. The rosters are too......similar. Seems like every team is awesome, and the difference between 1 and 64 is a hair. 
Curious as to others' thoughts, especially those who prefer D1. How come? 

people like d1 for the recruiting - its cutthroat and generally pretty exciting. its like playing a new game.

the 1v64 thing is a stretch, the #1 team will kill the #64 team, winning a huge % of the games. but there are usually about 15 really good teams, and even within there there are definitely a bunch of teams with deficiencies. with EEs and stuff it makes planning a lot harder - so you might see a team with 10 talented players but they could still have some significant inadequacies... usually there's only a few that have loads of talent and all the right pieces.

I agree with 15 Really good teams...problem is at least 13 of 15 come from the Big Six conferences.....small conferences have NO chances at a stud....mid majors do, especially if a human dominated conference. Of course nearly ALL of the big 6 are human dominated and they gobble them up fast with plenty of money to do it and added prestige of the conference

Posted by taniajane on 7/21/2015 8:00:00 PM (view original):
I agree with 15 Really good teams...problem is at least 13 of 15 come from the Big Six conferences.....small conferences have NO chances at a stud....mid majors do, especially if a human dominated conference. Of course nearly ALL of the big 6 are human dominated and they gobble them up fast with plenty of money to do it and added prestige of the conference

yeah it definitely works that way. just gotta move up to the big 6, thats sort of the way it works. you can not if you want the challenge but for most coaches in the normal line of doing things, just do whatever you can to get to the big 6...

Posted by gillispie1 on 7/21/2015 8:02:00 PM (view original):

Posted by taniajane on 7/21/2015 8:00:00 PM (view original):
I agree with 15 Really good teams...problem is at least 13 of 15 come from the Big Six conferences.....small conferences have NO chances at a stud....mid majors do, especially if a human dominated conference. Of course nearly ALL of the big 6 are human dominated and they gobble them up fast with plenty of money to do it and added prestige of the conference

yeah it definitely works that way. just gotta move up to the big 6, thats sort of the way it works. you can not if you want the challenge but for most coaches in the normal line of doing things, just do whatever you can to get to the big 6...

But is this still possible if few people ever leave the Big 6 and coaches rarely get fired?

Pallas : It's a two or three steps project. First, you get to a mid-major, then you build that team up to B, to switch to Big Six. I did a three steps thing, I went from a low-end D1 team, to a mid-major and now I have to build my team up so I can move to the Big Six. But next time, hopefully, I know better and get to mid-major right away. There are always positions. In Tark, right now, there are five or six big six teams available in the jobs market. The problem is that the lowest prestige you will find is B... So you need to have a crazy resume to apply. People will wait for SIMS to drop these teams prestige slowly, then apply.

Posted by zorzii on 7/21/2015 8:39:00 PM (view original):
Pallas : It's a two or three steps project. First, you get to a mid-major, then you build that team up to B, to switch to Big Six. I did a three steps thing, I went from a low-end D1 team, to a mid-major and now I have to build my team up so I can move to the Big Six. But next time, hopefully, I know better and get to mid-major right away. There are always positions. In Tark, right now, there are five or six big six teams available in the jobs market. The problem is that the lowest prestige you will find is B... So you need to have a crazy resume to apply. People will wait for SIMS to drop these teams prestige slowly, then apply.

Good points, zorzii, thanks.

Posted by gillispie1 on 7/21/2015 8:02:00 PM (view original):

Posted by taniajane on 7/21/2015 8:00:00 PM (view original):
I agree with 15 Really good teams...problem is at least 13 of 15 come from the Big Six conferences.....small conferences have NO chances at a stud....mid majors do, especially if a human dominated conference. Of course nearly ALL of the big 6 are human dominated and they gobble them up fast with plenty of money to do it and added prestige of the conference

yeah it definitely works that way. just gotta move up to the big 6, thats sort of the way it works. you can not if you want the challenge but for most coaches in the normal line of doing things, just do whatever you can to get to the big 6...

Been there done it with Tennessee......wasn't fun. Granted only gave it 3 seasons...but saw even then it just was not fair/realistic/fun

From the looks of it, it basically looks like you have to build a D- up to better than a mid major, then jump to a worse mid major but better baseline, before building that up better than a bad big 6 and jump to another worse team but better baseline, before building that bad big 6 up into a contender or on par with the other A schools and jumping to those high prestige baseline, desireable big 6 jobs.

Really should not be that hard to jump from a D- to a big 6 job if you can manage 3ish+ consecutive NT bids, or make 1/2 deep runs to the S16 or better.  Or if you go to a mid major you should be able to jump up to those desireable jobs if they fall under an A- if you have built a B- or better school.

tl:dr you shoulnt have to build a school up better than the job you want.  you should be able to move up schools prestige wise like apply to a B+ big 6 from a B-/B mid major or built up bottom feeder.  but then you have to wirry about those coaches than don't have the ability to coach big 6 getting there and not being fired forever....(fix firings too)....

No can move as I did from a low conference to a big 6.....but openings are a few, and you get the bottom of barrel there...still great but now is the dog fight billy G mentioned.....I quickly got tired of it. rather build a team and compete than fight (usually losing battles) over top end recruits.....in this bracket of div 1....its who gets most 5*'s for a lot of it...not who finds gems

Posted by taniajane on 7/22/2015 1:04:00 AM (view original):
No can move as I did from a low conference to a big 6.....but openings are a few, and you get the bottom of barrel there...still great but now is the dog fight billy G mentioned.....I quickly got tired of it. rather build a team and compete than fight (usually losing battles) over top end recruits.....in this bracket of div 1....its who gets most 5*'s for a lot of it...not who finds gems

let me also say...can you then succeed? sure...takes awhile and that blocks everyone else from those jobs......tough to be fired

Just joined a new world to jump to D1, not looking appeasing now.

In the last year I have made the jump to D1 in Iba and Phelan.  I have 2 teams now - Maryland under this ID and Seton Hall under my other ID in Iba (brianxavier).

I have enjoyed the challenge.  It is a much different experience.  My path was slower in Phelan since I wanted to learn about D1 and so I started at a low D1 school - Samford.  After several seasons and ok success (beating up sims mostly) I felt ready for the jump to Xavier in the A10 against more human coaches.  Did okay there and finally made the move to Maryland.  I tried to be picky about what high level Big 6 school I could take.  I consulted a lot with a guy who had much experience at D1 and he has helped me quite a bit along the way.  I don't know if I'll succeed at D1, but I do see a lot of coaches that seem to jump too quick to the big 6 conferences that I don't think are ready.

In Iba, I took a different route - I jumped straight to Seton Hall from D2 after years (literally) at Limestone.  Time will tell if I can build either of these teams to elite levels.  The main differences I see at D1 are:  prestige is huge, there are many more good coaches, there are many full or nearly full conferences (most coaches are lumped in the big 6, whereas D2-D3 are less coaches I think and more spread around), and lots more recruiting cash...

In sum, if you go the D1 route I think it's important to be humble and patient.  There is a steep learning curve and I think a lot of coaches get frustrated.  I am trying to keep my expectations low and my credit card handy (due the lack of post season rewards).

Posted by carl3298 on 7/22/2015 9:59:00 AM (view original):
In the last year I have made the jump to D1 in Iba and Phelan.  I have 2 teams now - Maryland under this ID and Seton Hall under my other ID in Iba (brianxavier).

I have enjoyed the challenge.  It is a much different experience.  My path was slower in Phelan since I wanted to learn about D1 and so I started at a low D1 school - Samford.  After several seasons and ok success (beating up sims mostly) I felt ready for the jump to Xavier in the A10 against more human coaches.  Did okay there and finally made the move to Maryland.  I tried to be picky about what high level Big 6 school I could take.  I consulted a lot with a guy who had much experience at D1 and he has helped me quite a bit along the way.  I don't know if I'll succeed at D1, but I do see a lot of coaches that seem to jump too quick to the big 6 conferences that I don't think are ready.

In Iba, I took a different route - I jumped straight to Seton Hall from D2 after years (literally) at Limestone.  Time will tell if I can build either of these teams to elite levels.  The main differences I see at D1 are:  prestige is huge, there are many more good coaches, there are many full or nearly full conferences (most coaches are lumped in the big 6, whereas D2-D3 are less coaches I think and more spread around), and lots more recruiting cash...

In sum, if you go the D1 route I think it's important to be humble and patient.  There is a steep learning curve and I think a lot of coaches get frustrated.  I am trying to keep my expectations low and my credit card handy (due the lack of post season rewards).

+1 Yes indeed. Humble, patient and have no fear. You will stumble. I did at La Salle. Recruiting was hell last season.