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Posted by CoachWard95 on 1/6/2016 4:49:00 PM (view original):
Making Chowan university a A+ prestige is one of my main goals before I make the jump to the higher division possible diviison 1 if I build a nice resume for myself. My question is with a 2-0 career record playing my first human game tonight https://www.whatifsports.com/hd/schedule/ even spread and double teaming his best premiter player I should come out with a W how long will it take being in the best conference to make it a A+ prestige? I originally want to only scout nc players and build a nc squad and make it a all nc or whatever in buzzerbeater they would've called it homegrown. But my mentor said scout the southeast reigion i'm just making a assumption Ok he didnt say the southeast region he said https://www.whatifsports.com/sitemail/message.asp?mid=13908990 "NC, SC, VA, and possibly MD and/or WV"-darnoc29099. One more question could a coach get offer a job or do we have to apply for the job?

how long for a+? it COMPLETELY depends on your success. if you do it in 5 seasons, that would be incredible, so hunker down, gonna be a minute :) basically, you need to be able to make the NT consistently, as the first step, thats pretty much the hallmark of a good coach. that would get you to like an a-, so then you just need 1 or 2 good seasons from there. super fast coaches with a mentor might be able to consistently make the NT after a few seasons, for some, it takes 10, 20, 50, 100... so, rather difficult to predict :)

good luck you though!!

I've taken Bridgewater State (Tark) from a C to an A- in three seasons. But I had two major factors helping me: (1) I took over a team that had 11 scholarship openings, so I was able to fill it pretty quickly with my guys and (2) there is only one other human in my conference, so I didn't have to take beatings from experienced coaches.

CoachWard won't be able to overhaul his roster until his juniors graduate and is in a conference with five ranked teams and seven good coaches. It's not going to happen quickly at Chowan. My best guess, if he does everything right...it will be 5 seasons before his team is really good (when the current juniors graduate and the recruits that replace them become juniors).

Well so far so good won my first human game only got 1 more human in non conference game been scoring in the 80s each game and lost to two sim teams in the letting up 80s in exhibition matches. Two games in the high 80s one at 80. Next game is a -11 point spread but this time I am double teaming there star preiemeter player so should have game in hand plus its home.. 3-0 so far!

grimmace is right coachward, and I will go a bit further.

Until that first big recruiting class is juniors, I cant see you having any chance to make the NT, or even the PIT for that matter.  If you could manage an RPI in the low 100s that would be a job well done.  .  

Even when that first big class is juniors, you would be doing well to barely make the NT.  Then when they are seniors, if you have done a really good job and you get a few breaks along the way, you could compete to win some NT games.   But that's only if you really learn recruiting before that big class comes up and even then you've got to hope there is a good class of nearby recruits available, and that you don't accidentally find yourself battling with more experienced coaches for some of them.

My best guess is 8 to 10 seasons before you could get that team to A+ and that is if you really learn the ins and outs of this game.

But I still think that is a great goal.  But don;t dread that journey,  embrace it!     Set intermediate goals like  getting to .500, making the PIT, getting players on All Conference team.  

Enjoy the Process!

I just looked at your schedule.
You actually do have a chance to go 10-0 in nonconference.  But only because the schedule is very weak.  Extremely weak.
You probably have a good chance to win the 4 conference games against sim coaches,  but I just don't see you beating any of the humans in your conference.

But that is actually a good thing having so many great coaches in your conference.  Ask questions, watch how they recruit and prepare for games, learn from them.

Posted by xlixer on 1/7/2016 1:23:00 PM (view original):
I just looked at your schedule.
You actually do have a chance to go 10-0 in nonconference.  But only because the schedule is very weak.  Extremely weak.
You probably have a good chance to win the 4 conference games against sim coaches,  but I just don't see you beating any of the humans in your conference.

But that is actually a good thing having so many great coaches in your conference.  Ask questions, watch how they recruit and prepare for games, learn from them.

You can learn from great coaches without even talking to them. Look at the top teams in your world who have had the same coaches for a while (as opposed to a good team that a new coach took over when the old coach moved up) and who run your offense/defense. Look at the players they have recruited and try to figure out why they targeted those guys.

What I love about D3 is that it is filled with flawed players. Big men who can rebound, but not score, or vice versa. Shooting guards that couldn't post up a folding chair. There are almost no "complete" players at D3 (as opposed to high level D1, where a stud *center* can be 65/75/65 in per/bh/pass). So you have to cobble a complete team out of incomplete players.

Find the best players in D3 and then go look at their ratings history. What kind of ratings did they have as freshmen? Did they have high/high potential in key categories? What skills did they have as recruits that would make a good coach go after them? 80% of success in HD is recruiting/team composition, so study the people who do it well.

Posted by xlixer on 1/7/2016 1:23:00 PM (view original):
I just looked at your schedule.
You actually do have a chance to go 10-0 in nonconference.  But only because the schedule is very weak.  Extremely weak.
You probably have a good chance to win the 4 conference games against sim coaches,  but I just don't see you beating any of the humans in your conference.

But that is actually a good thing having so many great coaches in your conference.  Ask questions, watch how they recruit and prepare for games, learn from them.

I plan on bringing the heat on the coaches in my conference I am only double teaming one player which is there best preimiter player right now and that's going to be my switch up in conference play. I was going to tell you but the guys maybe reading the stuff its best if I kept quiet on what I plan to do.

Posted by CoachWard95 on 1/7/2016 2:13:00 PM (view original):

Posted by xlixer on 1/7/2016 1:23:00 PM (view original):
I just looked at your schedule.
You actually do have a chance to go 10-0 in nonconference.  But only because the schedule is very weak.  Extremely weak.
You probably have a good chance to win the 4 conference games against sim coaches,  but I just don't see you beating any of the humans in your conference.

But that is actually a good thing having so many great coaches in your conference.  Ask questions, watch how they recruit and prepare for games, learn from them.

I plan on bringing the heat on the coaches in my conference I am only double teaming one player which is there best preimiter player right now and that's going to be my switch up in conference play. I was going to tell you but the guys maybe reading the stuff its best if I kept quiet on what I plan to do.

I'm going to tell you a story before I respond to this.

When Barry Alvarez took over as the Wisconsin football coach in 1990, the Badgers had been one of the worst teams in the country over the previous 5 seasons. They went 7-33 in the Big Ten in those 5 seasons and had no talent returning.

At a team meeting in 1990, one of the captains stood up and said, "We're going to go undefeated and win the Big Ten. Anybody that doesn't believe that, I'll kick their ***." Alvarez stood up and said, "I don't believe that. I just came from a team that lost one game. And you aren't even close."

When I look at your roster and then I look at the roster of the teams in your conference, I don't believe you are going to bring the heat. You aren't even close. There is no amount of gameplanning that you can do that will lead you to upset wins over Averett, Oglethorpe, La Grange, Newport, etc. 

You are going to win some non conference games because your schedule is insanely easy. For example, Pomona-Pitzer is one of the worst teams I have ever seen in HD (if they played a top team, they may actually lose by 100). It would be almost impossible for you to lose to them no matter what tactics you tried. But don't mistake beating cupcakes for skill at this game. 

Posted by grimacedance on 1/7/2016 2:32:00 PM (view original):

Posted by CoachWard95 on 1/7/2016 2:13:00 PM (view original):

Posted by xlixer on 1/7/2016 1:23:00 PM (view original):
I just looked at your schedule.
You actually do have a chance to go 10-0 in nonconference.  But only because the schedule is very weak.  Extremely weak.
You probably have a good chance to win the 4 conference games against sim coaches,  but I just don't see you beating any of the humans in your conference.

But that is actually a good thing having so many great coaches in your conference.  Ask questions, watch how they recruit and prepare for games, learn from them.

I plan on bringing the heat on the coaches in my conference I am only double teaming one player which is there best preimiter player right now and that's going to be my switch up in conference play. I was going to tell you but the guys maybe reading the stuff its best if I kept quiet on what I plan to do.

I'm going to tell you a story before I respond to this.

When Barry Alvarez took over as the Wisconsin football coach in 1990, the Badgers had been one of the worst teams in the country over the previous 5 seasons. They went 7-33 in the Big Ten in those 5 seasons and had no talent returning.

At a team meeting in 1990, one of the captains stood up and said, "We're going to go undefeated and win the Big Ten. Anybody that doesn't believe that, I'll kick their ***." Alvarez stood up and said, "I don't believe that. I just came from a team that lost one game. And you aren't even close."

When I look at your roster and then I look at the roster of the teams in your conference, I don't believe you are going to bring the heat. You aren't even close. There is no amount of gameplanning that you can do that will lead you to upset wins over Averett, Oglethorpe, La Grange, Newport, etc. 

You are going to win some non conference games because your schedule is insanely easy. For example, Pomona-Pitzer is one of the worst teams I have ever seen in HD (if they played a top team, they may actually lose by 100). It would be almost impossible for you to lose to them no matter what tactics you tried. But don't mistake beating cupcakes for skill at this game. 

So, are you trying to make me spill my strategy? Even that story isn't convincing enough. I may do it against one opponet maybe the next human game to test it out see if I can maintain the 80s scoring. All I can say the first three games one human and I scored 80s on the human player and I am trying to get him to come to my house next season we have to wait for a reply. All I can say is that my team has been super consistent so far and the ways I see myself losing is Overpowered team really nothing I could do they score more than 80 target range is 90 so far for a opponet to win. They have that one player who I don't recognize as a scorer ratings are blantly right there so if I look at it and understood what it meant I could figure it out. My team doesn't progress as it goes along in the press which it should we been practicing with a full 20 so far I don't know when I started it at maybe after the first game or so not really sure.

But don't mistake beating cupcakes for skill at this game.

I won't! I am in the toughest conference of Allen division 3. So i'll have a better resume than some of the guys who stay in a weaker conference.and win most of the time unless it doesn't work that way..

It will be interesting to see how you do when in conference play................also you seem to running a straight press and dble teaming...just a hint from the players guide here: "At the bottom of this page, you also have a doubleteam option. One note here is that if you are running a fullcourt press, you will constantly be doubleteaming the player with the basketball, and therefore have no control over doubleteam settings. However, if you are running a man-to-man defense, or a zone, you have the option of doubleteaming a player every time he touches the ball, or any time he receives the ball and is his team's leading scorer."

Posted by taniajane on 1/7/2016 4:16:00 PM (view original):
It will be interesting to see how you do when in conference play................also you seem to running a straight press and dble teaming...just a hint from the players guide here: "At the bottom of this page, you also have a doubleteam option. One note here is that if you are running a fullcourt press, you will constantly be doubleteaming the player with the basketball, and therefore have no control over doubleteam settings. However, if you are running a man-to-man defense, or a zone, you have the option of doubleteaming a player every time he touches the ball, or any time he receives the ball and is his team's leading scorer."

Was just about to post and say "how did we all miss him talking about double teaming when he's running press!".

Also, despite what you said in your previous post about running slowdown, you ran uptempo again in your game last night. Read the play by play, it lists the offensive set, tempo, defensive set  and positioning.

But yes, to echo what grimace said - be careful with your expectations. It's great you're excited about winning the first couple games! But temper your expectations or else you might get really upset and frustrated when you go on a losing streak. 

As for playing in a strong vs weak conf. I personally do prefer the strong conferences but my Ramapo team in Allen last season was in a conference that was having a down year and we went 16-0. However, due to a strong non conf schedule, I was still able to have a decent SOS and snag a 1 seed. So I think there are ways of doing both depending on the situation and your team. 

You're well on your way, just keep learning.

Posted by CoachWard95 on 1/7/2016 3:44:00 PM (view original):

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Posted by xlixer on 1/7/2016 1:23:00 PM (view original):
I just looked at your schedule.
You actually do have a chance to go 10-0 in nonconference.  But only because the schedule is very weak.  Extremely weak.
You probably have a good chance to win the 4 conference games against sim coaches,  but I just don't see you beating any of the humans in your conference.

But that is actually a good thing having so many great coaches in your conference.  Ask questions, watch how they recruit and prepare for games, learn from them.

I plan on bringing the heat on the coaches in my conference I am only double teaming one player which is there best preimiter player right now and that's going to be my switch up in conference play. I was going to tell you but the guys maybe reading the stuff its best if I kept quiet on what I plan to do.

I'm going to tell you a story before I respond to this.

When Barry Alvarez took over as the Wisconsin football coach in 1990, the Badgers had been one of the worst teams in the country over the previous 5 seasons. They went 7-33 in the Big Ten in those 5 seasons and had no talent returning.

At a team meeting in 1990, one of the captains stood up and said, "We're going to go undefeated and win the Big Ten. Anybody that doesn't believe that, I'll kick their ***." Alvarez stood up and said, "I don't believe that. I just came from a team that lost one game. And you aren't even close."

When I look at your roster and then I look at the roster of the teams in your conference, I don't believe you are going to bring the heat. You aren't even close. There is no amount of gameplanning that you can do that will lead you to upset wins over Averett, Oglethorpe, La Grange, Newport, etc. 

You are going to win some non conference games because your schedule is insanely easy. For example, Pomona-Pitzer is one of the worst teams I have ever seen in HD (if they played a top team, they may actually lose by 100). It would be almost impossible for you to lose to them no matter what tactics you tried. But don't mistake beating cupcakes for skill at this game. 

So, are you trying to make me spill my strategy? Even that story isn't convincing enough. I may do it against one opponet maybe the next human game to test it out see if I can maintain the 80s scoring. All I can say the first three games one human and I scored 80s on the human player and I am trying to get him to come to my house next season we have to wait for a reply. All I can say is that my team has been super consistent so far and the ways I see myself losing is Overpowered team really nothing I could do they score more than 80 target range is 90 so far for a opponet to win. They have that one player who I don't recognize as a scorer ratings are blantly right there so if I look at it and understood what it meant I could figure it out. My team doesn't progress as it goes along in the press which it should we been practicing with a full 20 so far I don't know when I started it at maybe after the first game or so not really sure.

But don't mistake beating cupcakes for skill at this game.

I won't! I am in the toughest conference of Allen division 3. So i'll have a better resume than some of the guys who stay in a weaker conference.and win most of the time unless it doesn't work that way..

You're expectations are just way to high, we re trying to let you know so when you go 4-12 in conf you don't give up.

It's not anything to do with your skill, it's how HD works, you have only 2 players of your own, which I'm not even sure how good they are without seeing potential.  Your team is just bad which is not your fault its your first season and all the upper classmen are sim recruits, you have maybe 3 actual players that aren't garbage in Moulder, Shinn, and Walker, every other sim recruit is crap.

You need to schedule nothing but automatic wins because even next season with the big senior class you still at best maybe can pull of 5 wins in conference.

You're conf doesn't affect your resume it's actually better to be a good team in a weak conference than a bad team in a good conference.

Again no one is trying to **** you off or being mean, it's just how HD works.  Even guys like jsajsa, pepwaves, tarvolon and dgravs would have trouble winning more than 4/5 games in that conference with your team because of how bad it is.

You are overestimating coaching ability, when a team is that bad there is nothing you can do except steal some wins against sim's at best hope to keep the games within 20 points against the human coaches in conference.

And beating that human coach isn't impressive like you seem to think he is in the same situation as you first season there mainly sim recruits, it would be the same as a first season human coach beating you, you were just the less crappy team.

You just have to push through the first ~3-5 sucky seasons until you get your own guys and can start to make some noise, but until then it's just waiting and watching your own players develop.

Just look at most teams that players take over from low prestige and no returning human talent, it is usually 3 seasons if the first class develops quickly and wins as juniors before they start to get good.  It's just how HD works.

Look at the SUNYAC conference in Phelan as an exmaple everyone had to rebuild and it took 3-5 seasons for almost everyone and it's a strong group of coaches, same will happen in the Smith CCIW everyone won't be truly good until 3-5 seasons once they get their own players it.

Thanks, I figured out why I was playing fast paced and I just changed my primary paceed to slow down.

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Posted by xlixer on 1/7/2016 1:23:00 PM (view original):
I just looked at your schedule.
You actually do have a chance to go 10-0 in nonconference.  But only because the schedule is very weak.  Extremely weak.
You probably have a good chance to win the 4 conference games against sim coaches,  but I just don't see you beating any of the humans in your conference.

But that is actually a good thing having so many great coaches in your conference.  Ask questions, watch how they recruit and prepare for games, learn from them.

I plan on bringing the heat on the coaches in my conference I am only double teaming one player which is there best preimiter player right now and that's going to be my switch up in conference play. I was going to tell you but the guys maybe reading the stuff its best if I kept quiet on what I plan to do.

I'm going to tell you a story before I respond to this.

When Barry Alvarez took over as the Wisconsin football coach in 1990, the Badgers had been one of the worst teams in the country over the previous 5 seasons. They went 7-33 in the Big Ten in those 5 seasons and had no talent returning.

At a team meeting in 1990, one of the captains stood up and said, "We're going to go undefeated and win the Big Ten. Anybody that doesn't believe that, I'll kick their ***." Alvarez stood up and said, "I don't believe that. I just came from a team that lost one game. And you aren't even close."

When I look at your roster and then I look at the roster of the teams in your conference, I don't believe you are going to bring the heat. You aren't even close. There is no amount of gameplanning that you can do that will lead you to upset wins over Averett, Oglethorpe, La Grange, Newport, etc. 

You are going to win some non conference games because your schedule is insanely easy. For example, Pomona-Pitzer is one of the worst teams I have ever seen in HD (if they played a top team, they may actually lose by 100). It would be almost impossible for you to lose to them no matter what tactics you tried. But don't mistake beating cupcakes for skill at this game. 

So, are you trying to make me spill my strategy? Even that story isn't convincing enough. I may do it against one opponet maybe the next human game to test it out see if I can maintain the 80s scoring. All I can say the first three games one human and I scored 80s on the human player and I am trying to get him to come to my house next season we have to wait for a reply. All I can say is that my team has been super consistent so far and the ways I see myself losing is Overpowered team really nothing I could do they score more than 80 target range is 90 so far for a opponet to win. They have that one player who I don't recognize as a scorer ratings are blantly right there so if I look at it and understood what it meant I could figure it out. My team doesn't progress as it goes along in the press which it should we been practicing with a full 20 so far I don't know when I started it at maybe after the first game or so not really sure.

But don't mistake beating cupcakes for skill at this game.

I won't! I am in the toughest conference of Allen division 3. So i'll have a better resume than some of the guys who stay in a weaker conference.and win most of the time unless it doesn't work that way..

You're expectations are just way to high, we re trying to let you know so when you go 4-12 in conf you don't give up.

It's not anything to do with your skill, it's how HD works, you have only 2 players of your own, which I'm not even sure how good they are without seeing potential.  Your team is just bad which is not your fault its your first season and all the upper classmen are sim recruits, you have maybe 3 actual players that aren't garbage in Moulder, Shinn, and Walker, every other sim recruit is crap.

You need to schedule nothing but automatic wins because even next season with the big senior class you still at best maybe can pull of 5 wins in conference.

You're conf doesn't affect your resume it's actually better to be a good team in a weak conference than a bad team in a good conference.

Again no one is trying to **** you off or being mean, it's just how HD works.  Even guys like jsajsa, pepwaves, and dgravs would have trouble winning more than 4/5 games in that conference with your team because of how bad it is.

You are overestimating coaching ability, when a team is that bad there is nothing you can do except steal some wins against sim's at best hope to keep the games within 20 points against the human coaches in conference.

And beating that human coach isn't impressive like you seem to think he is in the same situation as you first season there mainly sim recruits, it would be the same as a first season human coach beating you, you were just the less crappy team.

You just have to push through the first ~3-5 sucky seasons until you get your own guys and can start to make some noise, but until then it's just waiting and watching your own players develop.

Just look at most teams that players take over from low prestige and no returning human talent, it is usually 3 seasons if the first class develops quickly and wins as juniors before they start to get good.  It's just how HD works.

Look at the SUNYAC conference in Phelan as an exmaple everyone had to rebuild and it took 3-5 seasons for almost everyone and it's a strong group of coaches, same will happen in the Smith CCIW everyone won't be truly good until 3-5 seasons once they get their own players it.

And beating that human coach isn't impressive like you seem to think he is in the same situation as you first season there mainly sim recruits, it would be the same as a first season human coach beating you, you were just the less crappy team.


He is a proven winner 301-45 home record road record 261-182 players drafted 9 Conference 380-164 championships 16 tournament championships 8 national tournametn bids 13 record 6-13

Even though that was a while back it wasn't like me who just started he played in division 1 for 7 seasons with Cincinnati. while winning the conference championship half of the time he has been at Cincinnati. So in other words he could've easily beaten me.
So um not sure what you mean by its his first season

He means first season rebuilding. Honestly, you have not even started your real first season of rebuild with only Two recruited players (he has 6 already that might be a core in the coming years). As everyone stated, its great your enthused, but your expectations on how easy this game is, is setting you up for a serious reality check in the near future.

Just a few comments in addition to those above. I would start Martin White at the SF and Jerry Walker at one of the big's over John McClain. McClain was a worthless recruit. With a WE of 3 he will never help you. He just won't grow at all in 4 years. With those 2 weak players in the starting lineup, I'm not sure why you decided to go slowdown. I would have never done it. The fastest way to grow now is to go with your strongest players now.