Posted by oldresorter on 2/28/2016 11:08:00 AM (view original):
Posted by zorzii on 2/28/2016 8:33:00 AM (view original):
Oldresorter : we could restart the world over, but to be honest, as I am one climbing the ladder, or trying to climb it, I think it's not starting over that would help out people trying to get competitive in D1.
1) Start firing going.
2) Make the job process logic, logic. A team A- left by an owner, should drop a letter minimum in prestige so that other teams can apply. You could cap it at C prestige so big six do not drop that much. Once you reach some sort of mid-major talent, you should be able to apply to any low-end D1 team, not just by the prestige random chart.
3) Diminish the value of conference NT wins, so you can compete with big six teams when you recruit.
4) Make top recruits recruitable from everywhere in the world (1-50), make recruits have expectations, start, minutes per game etc.
5) Fix recruit generation.
I think slowly taking care of this would improve the game a lot.
In DIII, you need to make location less important.
DII is probably the less flawled of all divisions.
starting over would only apply to tenured 50 year coaches. Anyone climbing the latter would move to the front of the queue. Not sure if that addresses your concerns or not.
IMO I think this would really fix the firing and hiring issues with many people, the problem is with so few openings, more and more pressure is on those two issues, and NO process will EVER make ANYONE happy other than the guy who gets the job.
Firing in particular, I can't think of a better way to lose coaches - although the 50 year and then start over might lose a fair share right away, once it is in place, IMO it 'might' be the fix people are actually looking for.
Anyhow, hope that helps.
on a deep level, i really don't like making coaches leave, because this is a dynasty game. the whole point, it would seem, is to build a great dynasty. making people leave really runs against that.
however, i do see the real problem in d1 that this addresses. so, maybe there is a way to make it work? what are some problems and improvements over the simple "50 years and you are out" model?
- d2/d3 have unlimited flat schools, it seems somewhat cruel to force people out for no reason. i would propose the limit only applies to d1 schools
- it seems unfair that some folks would make it to d1 in 10 seasons, and then get 40, while others might spend 35 seasons building programs in the lower level, before deciding to try d1. this would not give them enough time to really experience d1. i would propose the limit only starts at the time you join d1 (presumably the limit would drop below 50 seasons in this case)
- forcing d1 only coaches to play d3 and d2 again would chase many away. its bad enough you are taking their dynasty away, but now you make them grind d3 and d2 again? some might be happy to do it, but those who don't want to, shouldn't have to. i would propose allowing d1 coaches to restart in d1, starting with a new clock and a resume that qualifies them for some lower schools. how low, i'm not sure, maybe a d+, maybe a c, something along those lines.
- i'm not convinced just starting the clock on d1 is enough. some guys get to a BCS school quick, others might make a half dozen stops to their destination. i think its really about time at the destination, that needs to be capped. a guy who coaches a mid major then a low BCS then another mid major then a med BCS and finally a strong BCS school, really has not blocked up anything until he got to the strong BCS school. similarly, some coaches only stick around a BCS program for a while, before wanting a change of scenery. i think those folks are also not blocking up much, unless i suppose they are just switching between A+ elites. if they are rebuilding new BCS programs each time, i think thats fine. we could try something like, every time you switch d1 jobs, to a B+ or lower program, you get 5 (maybe higher, 10?) years added back to your "clock", not exceeding the initial cap.
- under this paradigm, i could see a cap in the 30-40 season range.
im not sure i'd be for the change, with these rules, but i certainly don't have a deep loathing for it like i did years ago. i would definitely be against something like a 50 year flat cap without any limitations. but, i think if you are basically leaving everybody else alone, and saying, hey if you want to be the best, to compete at the highest level of this game, then part of that is that you can't sit on your perch forever - then i could minimally live with it! i don't think the rule should impact those who are not at the highest level of the game though, thats my objection (basically, for those veteran-haters, i'm saying i could live with this applying to someone like me, but not some younger coach who hasn't had a top tier school for a long time - so please don't frame these suggestions as selfishly motivated!).
i still worry that there might be folks who this system doesn't work well for, a guy who spends 20 seasons at a mid major before "getting it", or a very normal case, spending a dozen or so seasons at a mid major, and then 15 building a low bcs up to a+. that guy would have, with a 30 season cap, 30 - 12 - 15 + 5 = 7 seasons to enjoy that a+. the +5 is the bonus for switching jobs. that's just not enough time. maybe there is a better way, like the "clock" only starts if you have an a- or better prestige. maybe something like, when you switch jobs, you get a minimum of 20 seasons there unless you went from a- or better BCS to a- or better BCS, or something. i'm not sure - but to me, the goal should be to limit time on top of the mountain. i don't think this is fully addressed in the suggestions above but i think it is critical to coming up with a plan that works well, i.e. does not affect people who have not been on top of the mountain for a long time yet.
2/28/2016 12:28 PM (edited)