Firing in Knight Topic

Tenn-Martin fired their coach in Knight this morning. Justified?
Season Coach Overall
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Home
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Road
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Neutral
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Conf
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Rank RPI SOS Prestige Notes
92 rwright 6-21 2-10 4-10 0-1 3-13 309 311 D-
91 rwright 8-19 5-8 3-10 0-1 5-11 304 316 D-
90 rwright 11-17 6-7 4-9 1-1 9-7 243 276 D
89 rwright 16-11 7-6 9-4 0-1 10-6 162 263 D Conf Champion
88 rwright 13-14 5-8 8-5 0-1 7-9 215 299 D-
87 rwright 6-23 3-11 1-11 2-1 2-14 287 193 D-
3/14/2016 2:28 PM
The rules are pretty clear, six seasons without a playoff appearance and lose your job.
3/14/2016 2:30 PM
FINALLY A+ prestige Tenn-Martin is open to the masses waiting to apply.
3/14/2016 2:39 PM
Ah yes well good thing d- schools fire for bad performances.

But seriously I was starting to believe the whole firing thing was a myth I don't think I've been aware of anyone actually being fired.

I think rwright isn't very active he has periods of solid teams and then nothing or maybe he just quit and is ghosting.

But yes it is justified if that's the question, d- sucks but yoy should still show an improvement from when you get your own guys to upperclassmen status.
3/14/2016 2:41 PM
Wow was looking around at knight and this season there were some very question prestige moves or non moves, still can't believe it isn't going to be fixed, not even complaining about coaches not being fired but just prestiges... this sucks
3/14/2016 2:47 PM
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Posted by joeykw18 on 3/14/2016 2:28:00 PM (view original):
Tenn-Martin fired their coach in Knight this morning. Justified?
Season Coach Overall
W-L
Home
W-L
Road
W-L
Neutral
W-L
Conf
W-L
Rank RPI SOS Prestige Notes
92 rwright 6-21 2-10 4-10 0-1 3-13 309 311 D-
91 rwright 8-19 5-8 3-10 0-1 5-11 304 316 D-
90 rwright 11-17 6-7 4-9 1-1 9-7 243 276 D
89 rwright 16-11 7-6 9-4 0-1 10-6 162 263 D Conf Champion
88 rwright 13-14 5-8 8-5 0-1 7-9 215 299 D-
87 rwright 6-23 3-11 1-11 2-1 2-14 287 193 D-
Taking a team down from 287 to 309 in RPI over six years, yes, justified.
He went 10 years without a postseason at St. Joe's and didn't get fired. Higher baseline prestige there, never dropped below D+, RPI was in the low 100's instead of up in the 200-300s. Final RPI matters for prestige.
3/14/2016 2:58 PM
Posted by eflhoca on 3/14/2016 2:58:00 PM (view original):
Posted by joeykw18 on 3/14/2016 2:28:00 PM (view original):
Tenn-Martin fired their coach in Knight this morning. Justified?
Season Coach Overall
W-L
Home
W-L
Road
W-L
Neutral
W-L
Conf
W-L
Rank RPI SOS Prestige Notes
92 rwright 6-21 2-10 4-10 0-1 3-13 309 311 D-
91 rwright 8-19 5-8 3-10 0-1 5-11 304 316 D-
90 rwright 11-17 6-7 4-9 1-1 9-7 243 276 D
89 rwright 16-11 7-6 9-4 0-1 10-6 162 263 D Conf Champion
88 rwright 13-14 5-8 8-5 0-1 7-9 215 299 D-
87 rwright 6-23 3-11 1-11 2-1 2-14 287 193 D-
Taking a team down from 287 to 309 in RPI over six years, yes, justified.
He went 10 years without a postseason at St. Joe's and didn't get fired. Higher baseline prestige there, never dropped below D+, RPI was in the low 100's instead of up in the 200-300s. Final RPI matters for prestige.
I'm not disagreeing with anything you wrote, just making that clear up front. All I'd like to add is that if this resume is enough to get someone fired then there should be a whole helluva lot of coaches sweating the end of their respective seasons.

Perhaps, as was mentioned, he ghost shipped the team and someone in his conference complained in a ticket to CS and that was the catalyst needed to get him removed from this team. If that "was" the case, and that's a big IF, then that is all kinds of wrong. Firings should NOT be based on another coach acting like a hallway monitor. it's nice to see that firings have not totally been removed, but they REALLY need to be ramped up. A lot.

I understand Seble's hesitation in firings because he feels it could upset long time users. But what about those long time users who are stuck just below the elite team level who can't break through the logjam of coaches at the elite teams, some of which definitely do NOT deserve to be in their current positions.

I'm probably in a very, very small minority but I'm the type of person/coach who would understand being fired from a job if I wasn't performing up to standard. Believe me, I wouldn't necessarily "like" it, but I would understand it and be man enough to accept the fact that it was time to move on. I would like to think that coaches who play long enough and are competitive enough to reach the elite levels are also rational enough people to realize that they aren't getting the job done and would ultimately be okay with being fired (after they cooled off for a bit). Maybe I'm totally off base here but I would just hope that those coaches would have enough personal integrity to do the right thing.

As far as "meeting team standards", that's easy. It might take Seble a little time to go back through and code each team but the answer is to announce up front, in the e-mail you get welcoming you to your new school, what the minimum requirements to keep the job will be. Simple and transparent. That way a coach knows exactly what he has to do in order to keep the job and if those minimum standards aren't met, then it's time to go and let the next person try. Easy as can be. What those standards are could be up for discussion and would have to be reasonable but put it out in the open so everyone knows. That way if a coach "isn't" meeting those standards, other coaches interested in that job will know that it's about to open up to new applicants. Easy as can be.

Sorry for the rambling but hirings/firings has been a pet peeve of mine for a long, long time.
3/14/2016 3:24 PM
I think that firing is a joke. He is in OVC, will he be able to get to another D- team in D1?
3/14/2016 3:30 PM
Posted by bathtubhippo on 3/14/2016 2:39:00 PM (view original):
FINALLY A+ prestige Tenn-Martin is open to the masses waiting to apply.
+1 x 10999999999999999

Who among us wasn't thinking "if only Tenn-Martin were available is some world, then I would have a reason to keep playing!"
3/14/2016 4:00 PM
Posted by the0nlyis on 3/14/2016 2:53:00 PM (view original):
Posted by Trentonjoe on 3/14/2016 2:30:00 PM (view original):
The rules are pretty clear, six seasons without a playoff appearance and lose your job.
That's a joke right?
Not a joke, this is actually the case.
3/14/2016 4:22 PM
Posted by tkimble on 3/14/2016 4:22:00 PM (view original):
Posted by the0nlyis on 3/14/2016 2:53:00 PM (view original):
Posted by Trentonjoe on 3/14/2016 2:30:00 PM (view original):
The rules are pretty clear, six seasons without a playoff appearance and lose your job.
That's a joke right?
Not a joke, this is actually the case.
maybe for d- jobs i can literally show you multiple coaches that should be fired right now. if you wanr ill do it when i get home, i have a giant spreadsheet and ill pull up anyone with 6+ no post season.
3/14/2016 4:31 PM
There are many examples of a coach not being fired after 6+ years missing the postseason. Just take a look at this 22 season drought! I'm not sure if the coach even got fired, if memory serves me right he just quit. Did it have something to do with the prestige never dropping to D-?

101 drewholst 6-21 4-9 2-11 0-1 1-15 244 112 D
100 drewholst 6-21 2-11 4-9 0-1 3-13 224 84 D
99 drewholst 15-13 6-7 8-5 1-1 6-10 153 165 D
98 drewholst 6-21 4-7 2-13 0-1 3-13 284 234 D
97 drewholst 9-18 6-6 3-11 0-1 2-14 260 257 D
96 drewholst 11-16 6-6 5-9 0-1 6-10 220 219 D+
95 drewholst 16-11 7-4 9-6 0-1 9-7 174 296 D+
94 drewholst 19-10 7-5 10-4 2-1 10-6 143 243 D+
93 drewholst 6-21 3-9 3-11 0-1 1-15 277 195 D+
92 drewholst 18-10 8-4 9-5 1-1 8-8 113 179 C-
91 drewholst 15-13 7-6 7-6 1-1 9-7 161 207 D+
90 drewholst 11-16 5-6 6-9 0-1 6-10 222 246 D
89 drewholst 10-17 6-6 4-10 0-1 3-13 201 130 D+
88 drewholst 5-22 3-9 2-12 0-1 2-14 264 133 D+
87 drewholst 13-14 10-3 3-10 0-1 6-10 155 127 C-
86 drewholst 14-14 5-6 8-7 1-1 5-11 112 88 C-
85 drewholst 7-21 4-9 2-11 1-1 3-13 165 37 C-
84 drewholst 7-20 3-8 4-11 0-1 3-13 191 77 C-
83 drewholst 15-12 7-4 8-7 0-1 8-8 107 101 C-
82 drewholst 11-16 7-4 4-11 0-1 6-10 149 84 C-
81 drewholst 8-19 4-7 4-11 0-1 2-14 238 181 C-
80 drewholst 10-17 3-9 7-7 0-1 3-13 186 137 C
79 drewholst 23-7 10-1 10-5 3-1 11-5 61 152 C CT Champion
NT (1st Round)
78 drewholst 15-14 7-4 6-9 2-1 7-9 129 140 C-
77 drewholst 11-18 6-8 3-9 2-1 6-10 181 106 C-
76 drewholst 13-15 6-7 6-7 1-1 9-7 173 153 C-
3/14/2016 4:39 PM
Posted by tkimble on 3/14/2016 4:22:00 PM (view original):
Posted by the0nlyis on 3/14/2016 2:53:00 PM (view original):
Posted by Trentonjoe on 3/14/2016 2:30:00 PM (view original):
The rules are pretty clear, six seasons without a playoff appearance and lose your job.
That's a joke right?
Not a joke, this is actually the case.
I thought it was 7 seasons without any postseason
3/14/2016 4:46 PM
Posted by clouseb on 3/14/2016 4:39:00 PM (view original):
There are many examples of a coach not being fired after 6+ years missing the postseason. Just take a look at this 22 season drought! I'm not sure if the coach even got fired, if memory serves me right he just quit. Did it have something to do with the prestige never dropping to D-?

101 drewholst 6-21 4-9 2-11 0-1 1-15 244 112 D
100 drewholst 6-21 2-11 4-9 0-1 3-13 224 84 D
99 drewholst 15-13 6-7 8-5 1-1 6-10 153 165 D
98 drewholst 6-21 4-7 2-13 0-1 3-13 284 234 D
97 drewholst 9-18 6-6 3-11 0-1 2-14 260 257 D
96 drewholst 11-16 6-6 5-9 0-1 6-10 220 219 D+
95 drewholst 16-11 7-4 9-6 0-1 9-7 174 296 D+
94 drewholst 19-10 7-5 10-4 2-1 10-6 143 243 D+
93 drewholst 6-21 3-9 3-11 0-1 1-15 277 195 D+
92 drewholst 18-10 8-4 9-5 1-1 8-8 113 179 C-
91 drewholst 15-13 7-6 7-6 1-1 9-7 161 207 D+
90 drewholst 11-16 5-6 6-9 0-1 6-10 222 246 D
89 drewholst 10-17 6-6 4-10 0-1 3-13 201 130 D+
88 drewholst 5-22 3-9 2-12 0-1 2-14 264 133 D+
87 drewholst 13-14 10-3 3-10 0-1 6-10 155 127 C-
86 drewholst 14-14 5-6 8-7 1-1 5-11 112 88 C-
85 drewholst 7-21 4-9 2-11 1-1 3-13 165 37 C-
84 drewholst 7-20 3-8 4-11 0-1 3-13 191 77 C-
83 drewholst 15-12 7-4 8-7 0-1 8-8 107 101 C-
82 drewholst 11-16 7-4 4-11 0-1 6-10 149 84 C-
81 drewholst 8-19 4-7 4-11 0-1 2-14 238 181 C-
80 drewholst 10-17 3-9 7-7 0-1 3-13 186 137 C
79 drewholst 23-7 10-1 10-5 3-1 11-5 61 152 C CT Champion
NT (1st Round)
78 drewholst 15-14 7-4 6-9 2-1 7-9 129 140 C-
77 drewholst 11-18 6-8 3-9 2-1 6-10 181 106 C-
76 drewholst 13-15 6-7 6-7 1-1 9-7 173 153 C-
Total guess here, maybe for low baseline schools a winning record counts close enough to a PI to keep them employed, but clearly another example of how broken firing decisions are
3/14/2016 4:47 PM
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