Biggest differences between d3 and d2 Topic

Posted by qb4usf on 4/4/2016 11:09:00 AM (view original):
I am currently qualified for Big 6 jobs on my Castleton State (15 seasons) and Linfield (29 seasons) although Linfield has been qualified for a few seasons now. It is not impossible, but it does takes long term consistency.
I am curious, were you ever Div 2 in those worlds?
4/4/2016 11:12 AM
I believe darnoc said he was qualified for tark D1 after:
108 darnoc29099 31-3 10-0 14-2 7-1 16-0 3 2 5 A+ Conf Champion
CT Champion
NT (Final Four)
107 darnoc29099 33-1 10-0 16-0 7-1 16-0 3 7 42 A+ Conf Champion
CT Champion
NT (Final Four)
106 darnoc29099 32-1 10-0 16-0 6-1 16-0 5 5 19 A+ Conf Champion
CT Champion
NT (Elite 8)
105 darnoc29099 23-7 9-5 11-1 3-1 15-1 41 49 A Conf Champion
CT Champion
NT (1st Round)
4/4/2016 11:14 AM
Posted by the0nlyis on 4/4/2016 11:14:00 AM (view original):
I believe darnoc said he was qualified for tark D1 after:
108 darnoc29099 31-3 10-0 14-2 7-1 16-0 3 2 5 A+ Conf Champion
CT Champion
NT (Final Four)
107 darnoc29099 33-1 10-0 16-0 7-1 16-0 3 7 42 A+ Conf Champion
CT Champion
NT (Final Four)
106 darnoc29099 32-1 10-0 16-0 6-1 16-0 5 5 19 A+ Conf Champion
CT Champion
NT (Elite 8)
105 darnoc29099 23-7 9-5 11-1 3-1 15-1 41 49 A Conf Champion
CT Champion
NT (1st Round)
i could believe that, still a lot harder to make e8/f4/f4 than it is to merely make an a+, which was really my point (that just took the e8, not the two f4s). most coaches cannot walk in and bang out 4 seasons like that - to become maybe d- eligible in d1. plus, a lot of folks like to wait to get a mid major job, instead of a low major, meaning a c prestige baseline school instead of d+ baseline or whatever, which makes a relatively big difference. to get the mid major jobs in d1, usually you have to be like d+ eligible already, and the higher you look in d1, the harder it is to get there from d3.
4/4/2016 11:40 AM
At the height of the DVC run I was qualified for a B non-big 6 job or two, all B- non Big 6 jobs, and C+ big six jobs. Don't think I was ever qualified for a B- big 6 but not 100% sure - it was a while ago, and I can't say I've been checking the jobs to keep up with it the past couple (real life) years..
4/4/2016 11:52 AM
Posted by taniajane on 4/4/2016 11:12:00 AM (view original):
Posted by qb4usf on 4/4/2016 11:09:00 AM (view original):
I am currently qualified for Big 6 jobs on my Castleton State (15 seasons) and Linfield (29 seasons) although Linfield has been qualified for a few seasons now. It is not impossible, but it does takes long term consistency.
I am curious, were you ever Div 2 in those worlds?
No, I have only played D-3. This is the first season that Castleton St has seen a Big 6 job open (Kansas St. D+), so it is one that I do not value too high, but Big 6 nonetheless.
4/4/2016 11:58 AM
Posted by qb4usf on 4/4/2016 11:09:00 AM (view original):
I am currently qualified for Big 6 jobs on my Castleton State (15 seasons) and Linfield (29 seasons) although Linfield has been qualified for a few seasons now. It is not impossible, but it does takes long term consistency.
just curious, at what level of prestige? it seems like the recent jobs change may have made it easier to move up to bcs from d3 - those resumes before the job change, almost definitely would not be eligible for a C prestige BCS, probably not C- BCS either. that kind of surprises me, that it would be easier, because it seems like it got harder for the d1 schools themselves! i would have thought it got harder for everyone.
4/4/2016 12:00 PM
I have only been qualified for D+ openings, I believe. I do not remember which seasons that I actually look, but once in a while I will check just to see what I am qualified for, so all of these teams are not from this past season only. Linfield qualified for Washington, Kansas St. and there was one more, but I dont recall which team. Longshot for Northwestern (C). Castleton St. just opened up Kansas St. (D+).
4/4/2016 12:09 PM
Posted by the0nlyis on 4/3/2016 7:46:00 PM (view original):
I think a big problem that I still have is that I focus a lot on D3 so when I play D2 I'm like holy crap what a stud, when in reality he's a stud D3 player and just an average D2 player. a great D2 teams looks like a midmajor D1 team and at least for me it's hard to differientiate between an elite D3 player and a great D2 player.

As well as in recruiting it seems you have to be really good and somewhat lucky in being able to pulldown or get dropdown from the D1 pool that become elite D2 players.
I moved up to D2 recently for a change of pace and this is so true. I still feel disoriented when searching for players.
4/4/2016 12:24 PM
Posted by the0nlyis on 4/4/2016 11:14:00 AM (view original):
I believe darnoc said he was qualified for tark D1 after:
108 darnoc29099 31-3 10-0 14-2 7-1 16-0 3 2 5 A+ Conf Champion
CT Champion
NT (Final Four)
107 darnoc29099 33-1 10-0 16-0 7-1 16-0 3 7 42 A+ Conf Champion
CT Champion
NT (Final Four)
106 darnoc29099 32-1 10-0 16-0 6-1 16-0 5 5 19 A+ Conf Champion
CT Champion
NT (Elite 8)
105 darnoc29099 23-7 9-5 11-1 3-1 15-1 41 49 A Conf Champion
CT Champion
NT (1st Round)
+1. I was only qualified for D- jobs.
4/4/2016 3:06 PM
Posted by gillispie1 on 4/4/2016 10:29:00 AM (view original):
Posted by asher413 on 4/3/2016 12:24:00 PM (view original):
Posted by CoachWard95 on 4/3/2016 12:19:00 PM (view original):
Posted by zorzii on 4/3/2016 11:08:00 AM (view original):
Chad :

It dépends on your goal. Do you want to move up at D1? If so, go to DII asap. Choose a program where you know you can recruit and, if it is possible, get one that was human owned. At DII, you will need to win consistently so be prepared to remain there 6 to 10 seasons before making the jump to D1.

If you do not care about D1, I suggest you remain at D3 until you get some winning seasons. But you can learn from D3 or D2, not a big difference. D3 is more location oriented, D2 is more about getting the right mix of players in and having a team philosophy.
I want to move up to division 1 but I want to build Chowan to a winning program. Also get my Loyality to a A+ home court to a C+ and perstige A+ not realistic I looked at the history and it says B+ was the highest it ever got. Also I might put in this as one of my goals. Be the longest tenured at Chowan in Allen world 6. If I accomplish all that will I be a favorite for a division 1 job?
It's very hard (not impossible) to jump from DIII to DI. Yes, if you got the team up to an A+ prestige, you should be there.
moving from d3 to d1 takes more than getting a team to an a+. its very challenging and really only for coaches who are looking to stay in d3 long term because they want to, and then when they go to move up, they just happen to be d1-eligible. its not really a valid strategy for moving up quickly, unless you are a top d3 coach already.

coachward - just wanted to let you know that c+ at d3 is basically impossible, so don't make that a goal. the game just doesn't let it get that high.

whoever asked, there is no baseline difference in d2/d3, that only exists in d1.
+1
4/4/2016 4:05 PM
Posted by gillispie1 on 4/4/2016 10:29:00 AM (view original):
Posted by asher413 on 4/3/2016 12:24:00 PM (view original):
Posted by CoachWard95 on 4/3/2016 12:19:00 PM (view original):
Posted by zorzii on 4/3/2016 11:08:00 AM (view original):
Chad :

It dépends on your goal. Do you want to move up at D1? If so, go to DII asap. Choose a program where you know you can recruit and, if it is possible, get one that was human owned. At DII, you will need to win consistently so be prepared to remain there 6 to 10 seasons before making the jump to D1.

If you do not care about D1, I suggest you remain at D3 until you get some winning seasons. But you can learn from D3 or D2, not a big difference. D3 is more location oriented, D2 is more about getting the right mix of players in and having a team philosophy.
I want to move up to division 1 but I want to build Chowan to a winning program. Also get my Loyality to a A+ home court to a C+ and perstige A+ not realistic I looked at the history and it says B+ was the highest it ever got. Also I might put in this as one of my goals. Be the longest tenured at Chowan in Allen world 6. If I accomplish all that will I be a favorite for a division 1 job?
It's very hard (not impossible) to jump from DIII to DI. Yes, if you got the team up to an A+ prestige, you should be there.
moving from d3 to d1 takes more than getting a team to an a+. its very challenging and really only for coaches who are looking to stay in d3 long term because they want to, and then when they go to move up, they just happen to be d1-eligible. its not really a valid strategy for moving up quickly, unless you are a top d3 coach already.

coachward - just wanted to let you know that c+ at d3 is basically impossible, so don't make that a goal. the game just doesn't let it get that high.

whoever asked, there is no baseline difference in d2/d3, that only exists in d1.
I apologize in advance for bringing up home court advantage again in D3, but after reading the thread I was curious as to what went into home court rating. I have 6 D3 teams (just started Grinnell last season) and I do not see how they determine HC.
Wisconsin Lutheran Home Court - C Last 5 seasons: 37-5 at home Last 2 Seasons: 17-0 at home
Rhodes Home Court - C Last 5 Seasons: 39-6 at home Last 2 Seasons: 18-0 at home
Castleton St. Home Court - C Last 5 Seasons: 36-4 at home Last 2 Seasons: 15-1 at home
Linfield Home Court - C Last 5 Seasons: 44-0 at home Last 2 Seasons: 18-0 at home
Texas, Tyler Home Court - C+ Last 5 Seasons: 31-9 at home Last 2 Seasons: 16-0 at home

I did not include the current season as I figured the home court changes when the season rolls over.
4/4/2016 4:16 PM
home court is not just the home W-L record. It's the overall team success.
If a team goes 6-0 at home and 0-6 on the road should the fanbase be more excited for them vs a team that went 5-1 at home and 5-1 on the road?
4/5/2016 1:09 PM
10 points average across the board attribute wise. imo anyway.
4/5/2016 10:27 PM
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