Posted by oldresorter on 6/21/2010 9:51:00 AM (view original):

Posted by arssanguinus on 6/21/2010 7:38:00 AM (view original):

Name five big men that have almost the speed of a guard?  Most of the ones you could describe that way woudl more adequately have been statted as Small forwards anyhow.
 

 

on most college teams all players come pretty close to tying on one court length runs.  This is even true high school top players i've coached, coached a few 6'9" kids in aau 2 summers ago, one of them consistently was top 3 on our minute drill, the other was 17 years old, weighed 260, and probably lost on 12 length of the floor runs by maybe 4 or 5 steps to the fastest players. 

Recruiting big men for d1 in real life for big men is pretty much about ATH/SP along with the obvious size - the notion that d1 guards are 90-99sp and big men are 1-10 sp simply is wrong.  Of course, the HD 'system' is another story, as seble can rig the ratings to mean whatever he wants,

but the truth is, there is only a very small difference in basketball between speed top to bottom, .1 to .3 seconds in transition maybe (transition is only about 25 yards)

so to answer your question - name 5 big men that almost have the speed of a guard, answer ALL OF THEM

Posted by arssanguinus on 6/21/2010 5:37:00 PM (view original):
Main point:  Under new recruits there IS overlap between guards and bigs.  THere are some bigs that are faster than some guards.

Posted by arssanguinus on 6/21/2010 7:19:00 PM (view original):
If he was actually addressing the real argument, agreed, he would have nailed it.  However, it sort of addresses a completely different argument.  .3 seconds doesn't sound like much, but in basketball terms it means quite a bit.

Posted by grantduck on 6/21/2010 7:21:00 PM (view original):

Posted by arssanguinus on 6/21/2010 7:19:00 PM (view original):
If he was actually addressing the real argument, agreed, he would have nailed it.  However, it sort of addresses a completely different argument.  .3 seconds doesn't sound like much, but in basketball terms it means quite a bit.

.3 seconds might be great, but the difference in HD between a 90 spd and a 25 spd is not .3 seconds.

DO guards regularly fight for rebounds with bigs, or with other guards?

Posted by arssanguinus on 6/21/2010 7:31:00 PM (view original):
SO what is the difference, Grant, and how are you quantifying it?  Plus. . .I already showed your numbers of '10 - 35' aren't really accurate, even as starting numbers, much less including potential.

Posted by isack24 on 6/21/2010 7:31:00 PM (view original):

Posted by grantduck on 6/21/2010 7:21:00 PM (view original):

Posted by arssanguinus on 6/21/2010 7:19:00 PM (view original):
If he was actually addressing the real argument, agreed, he would have nailed it.  However, it sort of addresses a completely different argument.  .3 seconds doesn't sound like much, but in basketball terms it means quite a bit.

.3 seconds might be great, but the difference in HD between a 90 spd and a 25 spd is not .3 seconds.

OK, but that's straight-ahead speed.  Speed here measures quckness, and no, there are not a lot of big men who are as quick as most high-level D1 guards.

Posted by arssanguinus on 6/21/2010 7:32:00 PM (view original):

DO guards regularly fight for rebounds with bigs, or with other guards?

 

Rajon ROndo is NORMAL?  10 - 35 as a range does not reflect my search in Phelan nor the one in knight, which went as high as over 60.
 

Posted by grantduck on 6/23/2010 5:58:00 AM (view original):

Posted by isack24 on 6/21/2010 7:31:00 PM (view original):

Posted by grantduck on 6/21/2010 7:21:00 PM (view original):

Posted by arssanguinus on 6/21/2010 7:19:00 PM (view original):
If he was actually addressing the real argument, agreed, he would have nailed it.  However, it sort of addresses a completely different argument.  .3 seconds doesn't sound like much, but in basketball terms it means quite a bit.

.3 seconds might be great, but the difference in HD between a 90 spd and a 25 spd is not .3 seconds.

OK, but that's straight-ahead speed.  Speed here measures quckness, and no, there are not a lot of big men who are as quick as most high-level D1 guards.

I agree, they are not AS quick, but they are closer than the new engine has made them.  Big men have essentially all been turned into Greg Ostertags.  As much as I've enjoyed HD and enjoy the new engine, i just can't play in a world full of Ostertags.

Posted by oldresorter on 6/23/2010 8:56:00 AM (view original):
hughes are you another alias for a in the b & argueness?  before you answer, note how you both use CAPITAL letters to PROVE a point - LOL - many think you are seble's wife or girl friend

As do . . .  how many people on the internet?  Capital letters for emphasis.  Some use bolding.  Some use underlines.  SOme change the color of the text.  SOme use italics. .
 

We all a vast conspiracy?

And there are several other people who try to use that "YOu must work for WIS/are seeble's girlfriend/etcetera'  you must be another alias for them.
 

 Also. .  "YOu must be someone's alias/seeble's girlfriend' doesn't really qualify as a scintillating argument either.