What a double team does for you... Topic

I was doubling Plotkin the whole game.  Figured with his terrible BH and passing I could get some turnovers out of him.  Got 5, not what I was hoping for but not bad.  Still shot like he wasn't even single-teamed and gave the back-up PG the ability to score 28 points in under 20 minutes...

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8/14/2010 12:48 PM
the only shot you had was putting better players on him. your current sg and sf had no shot of being effective in the dbl team. you should've moved your pg over to the sg spot for the game and inserted kent carter into the starting lineup. and why is one of your better players, carter, only playing 3 minutes?

rethink the lewis and robbins lineup, i get that you want a super rebounding team, but one of them has to make room for carter.
8/14/2010 1:22 PM
Also, your starting PG, Ranck, is just a flat out awful defender. He may get there quickly, but apparently has no idea what to do when he does.

I applaud you, however, for scouting your opponent enough to decide to double-team a sophomore guard in the first game of the season. While it did not work out this time, I can guarantee that maintaining that attention to detail will pay off long term.
8/14/2010 2:16 PM
Just my opinion, but at this point, there is absolutely no way I would have Carter starting in place of Robbins OR Lewis.  By the end of the season, sure, I guess.  But right now, nope.  He might have slightly better ratings, but to me, the difference in IQ's far outweighs the slight ratings advantage.  But hey, that's just me.  Skunk's been successful himself, so he knows what he's doing, but I personally just value IQ alot.  Ultimately it's your team and your call, but as you can see there are lots of different ways to run a team and have success.

Oh, and double teams, they rarely work anymore.  Every time I see one of my guys doubled in the PBP, my eyes light up because I'm almost sure I'm gonna win then and probably do about 95% of the time when I face one.
8/14/2010 5:00 PM
Posted by dcy0827 on 8/14/2010 5:00:00 PM (view original):
Just my opinion, but at this point, there is absolutely no way I would have Carter starting in place of Robbins OR Lewis.  By the end of the season, sure, I guess.  But right now, nope.  He might have slightly better ratings, but to me, the difference in IQ's far outweighs the slight ratings advantage.  But hey, that's just me.  Skunk's been successful himself, so he knows what he's doing, but I personally just value IQ alot.  Ultimately it's your team and your call, but as you can see there are lots of different ways to run a team and have success.

Oh, and double teams, they rarely work anymore.  Every time I see one of my guys doubled in the PBP, my eyes light up because I'm almost sure I'm gonna win then and probably do about 95% of the time when I face one.
well i'm sure you agree that carter needs more minutes in a game then three?
8/14/2010 6:18 PM
Carter is 3rd on the depth chart at PG and SG.  I'm sure you would agree that Maupin is a better PG than Carter.  I also have Garren above Carter on the SG depth chart.  Carter is better now, but Garren has a higher ceiling and since I don't have a very good team this year anyway on account of the 7-man recruiting class I figured I'd rather throw Garren the minutes so he can improve faster.
8/14/2010 8:01 PM
Also FYI, Carter got 11 minutes in the 2nd game.  I would anticipate with the staminas of the guys in front of him that he should average around 7 or 8, maybe 10 depending on the foul situations.  Those could get pretty bad given that my whole team stinks on ice on the defensive end of the floor.
8/14/2010 8:04 PM
Posted by uglyskunk3 on 8/14/2010 6:18:00 PM (view original):
Posted by dcy0827 on 8/14/2010 5:00:00 PM (view original):
Just my opinion, but at this point, there is absolutely no way I would have Carter starting in place of Robbins OR Lewis.  By the end of the season, sure, I guess.  But right now, nope.  He might have slightly better ratings, but to me, the difference in IQ's far outweighs the slight ratings advantage.  But hey, that's just me.  Skunk's been successful himself, so he knows what he's doing, but I personally just value IQ alot.  Ultimately it's your team and your call, but as you can see there are lots of different ways to run a team and have success.

Oh, and double teams, they rarely work anymore.  Every time I see one of my guys doubled in the PBP, my eyes light up because I'm almost sure I'm gonna win then and probably do about 95% of the time when I face one.
well i'm sure you agree that carter needs more minutes in a game then three?
Without a doubt, three is way to low.
8/14/2010 8:08 PM
Posted by dahsdebater on 8/14/2010 8:01:00 PM (view original):
Carter is 3rd on the depth chart at PG and SG.  I'm sure you would agree that Maupin is a better PG than Carter.  I also have Garren above Carter on the SG depth chart.  Carter is better now, but Garren has a higher ceiling and since I don't have a very good team this year anyway on account of the 7-man recruiting class I figured I'd rather throw Garren the minutes so he can improve faster.
carter is better then garren and if garren ever does get better then you can think about playing garren more then carter. til then, its carter. and yes maupin is better but his work ethic is so horrible that i'd still play carter over him.
8/14/2010 9:10 PM
Maupin makes me sad.  I recruited him from far away without FSS data because there were no local PGs with any significant long-term value.  I figured I could play him as he was and he could eat some decent minutes this year and wouldn't suck with his current stats when the team is competitive.  Turns out he has all the right high potentials to become really great if he weren't stuck with that 1 WE...
8/14/2010 9:21 PM
Posted by dcy0827 on 8/14/2010 5:00:00 PM (view original):
Just my opinion, but at this point, there is absolutely no way I would have Carter starting in place of Robbins OR Lewis.  By the end of the season, sure, I guess.  But right now, nope.  He might have slightly better ratings, but to me, the difference in IQ's far outweighs the slight ratings advantage.  But hey, that's just me.  Skunk's been successful himself, so he knows what he's doing, but I personally just value IQ alot.  Ultimately it's your team and your call, but as you can see there are lots of different ways to run a team and have success.

Oh, and double teams, they rarely work anymore.  Every time I see one of my guys doubled in the PBP, my eyes light up because I'm almost sure I'm gonna win then and probably do about 95% of the time when I face one.
i thought DT was dead too, dc.  but recently OR has been using it on me and while his team may have been a little more talented than mine this year,  the Dt seemed to increase his margin of victory and  also he sweep me all three games and i would have thought my squad was good enough to take one of three from him.  and none of the games was even close.  so,  clearly, it worked

the weird thing is,  i cant even figure out what he is doing.  i have three really good scorers (17, 17 and 13 ppg===C,SF,SG),  (plus a couple more decent ones)  and it seems that he switches up who is being DT'ed as the game goes along.  maybe he is using DTifleadingscorer on all three?  it just feels like im not given enough info to tell what the heck he is doing.  most of the time when i do see that a player is being DT'ed, he gets around it and scores.  but there doesnt seem to be much info on the situattions where the DT's are effective (which,  givent he final outcome must be quite often)

anyways,  just wanted to share that.  if it wasnt OR i wouldnt even give it a second thought.  the first game i saw it i thought he was triyng to lose to me on purpose.  but it seems there must be a method to his madness.
8/15/2010 9:45 AM
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