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Posted by vandydave on 8/21/2010 10:43:00 PM (view original):
total games coached should determine coach prestige.
Lol, weird that you would pick that one Dave.  Just weird........
8/22/2010 12:35 AM
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Posted by dcy0827 on 8/21/2010 5:10:00 PM (view original):
I have long thought that there should be a "coach prestige" and that there should be a way to tie it into the school prestige.  Since everyone here is seems to be shooting for realism, this would definitely apply. 

And I personally think it would be fair that coaches like OR, Lostmyth, Daalt, Grecian, Gillispie, etc. (and sorry if you didn't get mentioned, nothing personal) should have a higher "prestige" based on their short and long term success.  I suppose someone will say that it's the rich getter richer, but guys like that have earned it and there's no reason that the person who complains can't earn it also.
The other positive here I think would be addressing the problem that once a good coach leaves a non-elite school, the program usual falls into sim ai hell. If school prestige was more tied into coach prestige, when the coach left that program's prestige would drop somewhat, and then there would actually be coaches qualified to take it over.
8/22/2010 9:38 AM
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Posted by usc4life on 8/21/2010 11:08:00 PM (view original):
Posted by vandydave on 8/21/2010 10:43:00 PM (view original):
total games coached should determine coach prestige.
Winning percentage should be a major factor in the formula, as well as postseason berths

You need to be careful with winning percentage. There are some coaches who routinely have top 10 sos, and others that routinely schedule patsies; some coaches who play in very difficulty conferences, and some who skate by feasting on patsies. I'd much rather see RPI outweigh W-L % ... not that RPI is perfect, but the notion of trying to compare W-L % (especially as a major factor in the formula) is badly flawed.

8/22/2010 9:39 AM
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I think that by page 27, it is time to start a new post. I think this got way off topic.
8/22/2010 3:09 PM
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good threads normally go at least 800 pages
8/22/2010 8:23 PM
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Posted by moy23 on 8/22/2010 9:54:00 AM (view original):
Posted by girt25 on 8/22/2010 9:39:00 AM (view original):
Posted by usc4life on 8/21/2010 11:08:00 PM (view original):
Posted by vandydave on 8/21/2010 10:43:00 PM (view original):
total games coached should determine coach prestige.
Winning percentage should be a major factor in the formula, as well as postseason berths

You need to be careful with winning percentage. There are some coaches who routinely have top 10 sos, and others that routinely schedule patsies; some coaches who play in very difficulty conferences, and some who skate by feasting on patsies. I'd much rather see RPI outweigh W-L % ... not that RPI is perfect, but the notion of trying to compare W-L % (especially as a major factor in the formula) is badly flawed.

Agreed.
Definitely agree.  Thought the exact same thing as soon as I read the first two words.
8/23/2010 2:06 AM
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How about we just eliminate prestige and increase the postseason payouts.  Teams and conferences that do well will have a recruiting advantage based on available cash rather than arbitrary conference affiliation or RL school name...and we won't be locked into an eternally BCS-dominated game. 
8/23/2010 9:33 AM
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I think prestige is essential to college sports. Under the system you propose it makes it even more necessary to be in a great conference.
8/23/2010 10:12 AM
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Posted by vandydave on 8/22/2010 8:23:00 PM (view original):
good threads normally go at least 800 pages
Many times before lunch as well. You could grab a bite to eat in the old days and be 375-465 pages behind where you left off.

True fact.
8/23/2010 10:24 AM
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FWIW, DI Allen got pretty decimated by coaches leaving.

(In order of prestige): Southern, Idaho State, Louisville, Washington State, Notre Dame, St. Joe's, High Point, Missouri State, Washington, Fordham, Tennessee, Harvard, Pitt, Providence.

I've been in Allen forever and have not seen an exodus like that.

If I remember, I will check in later this week with a comparison on # of sims two seasons ago vs. now.
8/23/2010 11:26 AM
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Posted by wisefella99 on 8/23/2010 10:24:00 AM (view original):
Posted by vandydave on 8/22/2010 8:23:00 PM (view original):
good threads normally go at least 800 pages
Many times before lunch as well. You could grab a bite to eat in the old days and be 375-465 pages behind where you left off.

True fact.
it's true, ask anux.
8/23/2010 1:14 PM
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Posted by wisefella99 on 8/23/2010 1:51:00 PM (view original):
Posted by vandydave on 8/23/2010 1:14:00 PM (view original):
Posted by wisefella99 on 8/23/2010 10:24:00 AM (view original):
Posted by vandydave on 8/22/2010 8:23:00 PM (view original):
good threads normally go at least 800 pages
Many times before lunch as well. You could grab a bite to eat in the old days and be 375-465 pages behind where you left off.

True fact.
it's true, ask anux.

It is true, I'm agreeing with you.
heh, you made an old school forum reference so i went even further back with another HD forum reference. guess it missed you...
8/23/2010 4:16 PM
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