Posted by jslotman on 8/31/2010 10:55:00 AM (view original):
mmt is ruthless, as Eazy-E would say. 

Posted by tianyi7886 on 8/31/2010 11:30:00 AM (view original):
Speaking of being poached and recruiting being unpredictable. My D2 pulldown for my D3 team got poached, even though I pulled him down relatively late (after signing period started). Then as I move to my backup, a mediocre D3 player, as soon as I offer a scholarship, a C- prestige D3 school jumps in and looks he's gonna be poached too. 

Posted by dacj501 on 8/31/2010 11:52:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tianyi7886 on 8/31/2010 11:30:00 AM (view original):
Speaking of being poached and recruiting being unpredictable. My D2 pulldown for my D3 team got poached, even though I pulled him down relatively late (after signing period started). Then as I move to my backup, a mediocre D3 player, as soon as I offer a scholarship, a C- prestige D3 school jumps in and looks he's gonna be poached too. 

prolly just a coincidence...

Posted by tianyi7886 on 8/31/2010 11:55:00 AM (view original):

Posted by dacj501 on 8/31/2010 11:52:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tianyi7886 on 8/31/2010 11:30:00 AM (view original):
Speaking of being poached and recruiting being unpredictable. My D2 pulldown for my D3 team got poached, even though I pulled him down relatively late (after signing period started). Then as I move to my backup, a mediocre D3 player, as soon as I offer a scholarship, a C- prestige D3 school jumps in and looks he's gonna be poached too. 

prolly just a coincidence...

I guess you can't acct for bad coaching. There are a bunch of D2 dropdowns that I would have loved to take over my D3 backup, but I don't have the cash to offer HVs and I want to avoid offering starts/min, so I went with this D3 player. Instead this coach decides to screw me over and have me take on a walkon rather than taking the better D2 players. 

Posted by mmt0315 on 8/31/2010 10:17:00 AM (view original):
Sometimes when I read these subjects, I honestly believe I signed up to play a game with a bunch of children.  There is no such thing as "poaching".  By definition "poaching" is aqcuiring something illegally or taking something that is not yours.  Neither of which terms applies to recruiting in HD.  To compare recruiting in HD to recruiting in real life is asinine.  We recruit in cycles, real life does not; we are all given a budget based on eqaul factors; real life's is not set in the same manner; in HD you can literally calculate using a formula what it will take to sign a recruit and as OR stated you need to know when to hold em and when to fold em; in real life there is no such formula.

Bottom line is if youve been in DI for more than 3 or 4 seasons you should understand how recruiting works from every angle; you should know the teams and coaches around you; you should pay attention to their needs and money AND bottom line adjust appropriately.  There are many different strategies to employ in DI recruiting one of which is sitting back and waiting to see what develops before blowing your recruiting budget.  There is no entitlement to a player because one person jumped on him in the first cycle; if there was we would hold a draft. The only thing that matters in recruiting is what can I do to improve MY team; the nonsense of helping the conference is a joke and crying because youre a B school that spread itself to thin and couldnt thwart off an A+ school is silly. 

Posted by indyjag on 8/31/2010 11:50:00 AM (view original):

Posted by jslotman on 8/31/2010 10:55:00 AM (view original):
mmt is ruthless, as Eazy-E would say. 

Put the women and children to bed, it's time to go hunting for dinner!

Great movie. They should have made a part II; where he made it to the pros but relapsed into his alcoholic ways; makes that speech in the 4th quarter of a preseason game and gets slammed viciously into the ground ala Jake Delhomme this past weekend v. the Browns. He goes to his old college coach for help who is up to his knees with his own crap because the program was put into probation. Alvin who suffered a career ending injury in the first movie is now rehabilitated and gives Joe the ol "you don't know what you've got until its all taken away speech." Joe instantly pours his Captain Morgan Spiced Rum down the drain as he grabs a Sprite from the fridge before they temporarily embrace in a homoerotic Rocky III, Apollo/Rocky hug. Joe sits patiently on the bench the rest of the season as he tries to once again fix things with Buffy the Vampire Slayer. During the seasons final game the teams starting QB goes down to injury right before halftime trailing by 17 points and needing a win to make the playoffs. Joe valiantly leads the team back as they take a 1-point lead with only seconds remaining in the game. But to not fall into the trap of other cliche riddled movies, this story doesn't have a happy ending as the opposing team desperately drives down the field and kicks the winning FG in the final seconds. Joe is ok with the result because he gave it his all and has his life back on track setting up the final movie in this epic trilogy.

Posted by mmt0315 on 9/1/2010 10:50:00 AM (view original):

Posted by indyjag on 8/31/2010 11:50:00 AM (view original):

Posted by jslotman on 8/31/2010 10:55:00 AM (view original):
mmt is ruthless, as Eazy-E would say. 

Put the women and children to bed, it's time to go hunting for dinner!

Great movie. They should have made a part II; where he made it to the pros but relapsed into his alcoholic ways; makes that speech in the 4th quarter of a preseason game and gets slammed viciously into the ground ala Jake Delhomme this past weekend v. the Browns. He goes to his old college coach for help who is up to his knees with his own crap because the program was put into probation. Alvin who suffered a career ending injury in the first movie is now rehabilitated and gives Joe the ol "you don't know what you've got until its all taken away speech." Joe instantly pours his Captain Morgan Spiced Rum down the drain as he grabs a Sprite from the fridge before they temporarily embrace in a homoerotic Rocky III, Apollo/Rocky hug. Joe sits patiently on the bench the rest of the season as he tries to once again fix things with Buffy the Vampire Slayer. During the seasons final game the teams starting QB goes down to injury right before halftime trailing by 17 points and needing a win to make the playoffs. Joe valiantly leads the team back as they take a 1-point lead with only seconds remaining in the game. But to not fall into the trap of other cliche riddled movies, this story doesn't have a happy ending as the opposing team desperately drives down the field and kicks the winning FG in the final seconds. Joe is ok with the result because he gave it his all and has his life back on track setting up the final movie in this epic trilogy.

Posted by mmt0315 on 9/1/2010 10:50:00 AM (view original):

Posted by indyjag on 8/31/2010 11:50:00 AM (view original):

Posted by jslotman on 8/31/2010 10:55:00 AM (view original):
mmt is ruthless, as Eazy-E would say. 

Put the women and children to bed, it's time to go hunting for dinner!

Great movie. They should have made a part II; where he made it to the pros but relapsed into his alcoholic ways; makes that speech in the 4th quarter of a preseason game and gets slammed viciously into the ground ala Jake Delhomme this past weekend v. the Browns. He goes to his old college coach for help who is up to his knees with his own crap because the program was put into probation. Alvin who suffered a career ending injury in the first movie is now rehabilitated and gives Joe the ol "you don't know what you've got until its all taken away speech." Joe instantly pours his Captain Morgan Spiced Rum down the drain as he grabs a Sprite from the fridge before they temporarily embrace in a homoerotic Rocky III, Apollo/Rocky hug. Joe sits patiently on the bench the rest of the season as he tries to once again fix things with Buffy the Vampire Slayer. During the seasons final game the teams starting QB goes down to injury right before halftime trailing by 17 points and needing a win to make the playoffs. Joe valiantly leads the team back as they take a 1-point lead with only seconds remaining in the game. But to not fall into the trap of other cliche riddled movies, this story doesn't have a happy ending as the opposing team desperately drives down the field and kicks the winning FG in the final seconds. Joe is ok with the result because he gave it his all and has his life back on track setting up the final movie in this epic trilogy.

Posted by mmt0315 on 8/31/2010 10:17:00 AM (view original):
Sometimes when I read these subjects, I honestly believe I signed up to play a game with a bunch of children.  There is no such thing as "poaching".  By definition "poaching" is aqcuiring something illegally or taking something that is not yours.  Neither of which terms applies to recruiting in HD.  To compare recruiting in HD to recruiting in real life is asinine.  We recruit in cycles, real life does not; we are all given a budget based on eqaul factors; real life's is not set in the same manner; in HD you can literally calculate using a formula what it will take to sign a recruit and as OR stated you need to know when to hold em and when to fold em; in real life there is no such formula.

Bottom line is if youve been in DI for more than 3 or 4 seasons you should understand how recruiting works from every angle; you should know the teams and coaches around you; you should pay attention to their needs and money AND bottom line adjust appropriately.  There are many different strategies to employ in DI recruiting one of which is sitting back and waiting to see what develops before blowing your recruiting budget.  There is no entitlement to a player because one person jumped on him in the first cycle; if there was we would hold a draft. The only thing that matters in recruiting is what can I do to improve MY team; the nonsense of helping the conference is a joke and crying because youre a B school that spread itself to thin and couldnt thwart off an A+ school is silly.