Recruiting: is there a bonus for being in the lead Topic

It's my understanding that you receive some amount of extra credit for being on a recruit's "considering" list starting around day 2 of the recruiting cycle.  I believe this was put in place some time ago.  My question is - If two schools are listed on the recruit's "considering" list, is there any sort of extra credit given to the team that is in the lead?  By way of example: if two schools are being considered after the first cycle and 1) school A is in the lead based on the scholarship emails; 2) no additional effort is made by either school for a period of time - say 2 days; Does school A get any sort of extra bump for just being in the lead?  I don't think so but I'm curious to hear if anyone knows the answer one way or another.  Thanks.
10/25/2010 5:22 PM
Nope -- if the recruit is considering both of you, there's no additional credit for being in the lead.
10/25/2010 5:33 PM
I think there's a slight bonus for you if someone is trying to poach ur recruit on day 3.
10/25/2010 6:20 PM
well yeah there's a bonus for however long you're on a guy. for example, a CV you use on the first cycle ends up being worth, say, 1.1 CV's by day 3
10/25/2010 9:57 PM
So we have conflicting answers here, can we get a consensus from the vets?  Is considering credit enhanced by how how effort you have put into the recruit or is it a flat bonus?
10/26/2010 9:13 AM
The answers aren't conflicting.  There is a bonus for length of time on the player - kind of like interest - but no bonus for being in the lead.
10/26/2010 10:26 AM
Posted by ike1024 on 10/26/2010 10:26:00 AM (view original):
The answers aren't conflicting.  There is a bonus for length of time on the player - kind of like interest - but no bonus for being in the lead.
You get a slight edge over poachers on day 3, meaning if you put in 100 pts worth of effort, it will be worth 110pts worth of effort against the poacher (i know there's no points in recruiting, just CV/HV/etc. but points are easier to use). If you and another coach were both on a recruit on day 1, then there's no bonus if you are in the lead and your 100 points of recruiting effort = the other coaches 100 points of recruiting effort. 
10/26/2010 10:29 AM
Posted by ike1024 on 10/26/2010 10:26:00 AM (view original):
The answers aren't conflicting.  There is a bonus for length of time on the player - kind of like interest - but no bonus for being in the lead.
If the amount of the bonus is dependent on the amount of recruiting effort, then there is a bonus for being in the lead in the sense that you have more effort building interest.

If I understand correctly then, the consensus is that considering credit works like interest; being in the lead or not has no bearing on it.

10/26/2010 2:20 PM
Since we're on the topic of 3rd day poaching....

Anyone have any guesses or past experience on the approximate cost of a B human team (me) poaching a recruit from a B- SIM team with six schollies to fill?  I know that I'm not providing a lot of details, but I'd love to hear some ideas.
10/26/2010 3:10 PM
creillmann, just no way to answer that question. It could take just a few thousand dollars, or it could take $25K+.
10/26/2010 3:11 PM
Posted by _hannibal_ on 10/26/2010 9:13:00 AM (view original):
So we have conflicting answers here, can we get a consensus from the vets?  Is considering credit enhanced by how how effort you have put into the recruit or is it a flat bonus?
Not conflicting ...

-If a player is considering two teams the entire team, there is no additional credit given for being in the lead or anything else.
-If a player has been considering one team, and another team jumps in (for example) on the morning of signings, then there is additional considering credit accrued by the original team.
10/26/2010 3:13 PM
Posted by girt25 on 10/26/2010 3:11:00 PM (view original):
creillmann, just no way to answer that question. It could take just a few thousand dollars, or it could take $25K+.
Yeah I know it's impossible to be specific and there are a lot of other factors that come into play.  Just hoping someone had some recent examples of a similar experience.
10/26/2010 3:21 PM
Posted by creilmann on 10/26/2010 3:21:00 PM (view original):
Posted by girt25 on 10/26/2010 3:11:00 PM (view original):
creillmann, just no way to answer that question. It could take just a few thousand dollars, or it could take $25K+.
Yeah I know it's impossible to be specific and there are a lot of other factors that come into play.  Just hoping someone had some recent examples of a similar experience.
Poaching sim players on D3 is costly, from what I heard for HD. It is damn near impossible in GD at the lower levels. 
10/26/2010 3:57 PM
My understanding of considering credit is this: starting sometime on the morning of the second day, your effort begins gaining interest, regardless of who else the ercruit is considering.  So, if you put in 100 "points" of effort the first cycle, then on, say, the 6th cycle it will be worth 103, and on the 7th 107, 8th 112, etc.  This means, if no one else put any effort into this guy till the 20th cycle, your 100 points may by then be worth 180 or whatever.  If someone put 70 points in at the same time you did yours, then you will slowly be pulling away from him, such that a 30 point lead in the first cycle may become, say, a 55 point lead by the 20th. 
Make sense?
10/26/2010 4:09 PM
Posted by _hannibal_ on 10/26/2010 2:20:00 PM (view original):
Posted by ike1024 on 10/26/2010 10:26:00 AM (view original):
The answers aren't conflicting.  There is a bonus for length of time on the player - kind of like interest - but no bonus for being in the lead.
If the amount of the bonus is dependent on the amount of recruiting effort, then there is a bonus for being in the lead in the sense that you have more effort building interest.

If I understand correctly then, the consensus is that considering credit works like interest; being in the lead or not has no bearing on it.

I think the first sentence is an odd way of thinking about, although technically correct.  I think the second sentence is a more succinct and less confusing way to think about.

I would just forget about the "lead" thing, and think of it like interest, the way you did in your second sentence.
10/26/2010 4:28 PM
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