Wisefella is a classless punk Topic

Posted by emy1013 on 10/31/2010 12:35:00 PM (view original):
Posted by girt25 on 10/31/2010 12:27:00 PM (view original):
Posted by emy1013 on 10/31/2010 12:24:00 PM (view original):
Posted by daalter on 10/31/2010 12:17:00 PM (view original):
emy, have you seen that show "What Would You Do?" It stages fake situations that call for innocent bystanders to step up and say something/help out/etc. Some people do stand up, and others just ignore it and go about their normal day.

Has your place of employment convinced you to pick up a "Stop Snitching" mentality?
I work in a prison Daalter, snitching can be VERY dangerous.  I've seen, firsthand, throats cut because of it.  So, no, I don't snitch.  Ever.

And before any of you "lawyerly"-types try to call me out for an early post about reporting the situation to CS, notice I said someone, not me.  I've got NO problem with wisefella's actions, whatsoever.
I know you work in a prison, that's specifically why I asked you the question.

So I see where you stand now. You'd be one of the people on "What Would You Do?" that walked past and just went on with your life. I'd be one of the people that spoke up and helped. I'm totally comfortable with that. Sounds like you are, too.
Daalter, the only thing you know about me is what VERY little I've posted on here.  Do me a favor, huh, leave the psychoanalyzing to a qualified professional.  "Helping" and "telling" are two entirely different animals.  Night and Day, as you like to say.  You have NO idea how you, or anyone else, would react in a given situation until the situation presents itself.  You say you'd speak up and help, I say you'd cry like a little girl with a skinned knee.  Guess we'll never know.

Since I'm one of the people who would just "go on with my life", explain to me why I just wasted my time then, two months ago, trying to help give CPR to a man who had suffered a massive heart attack (he died, by the way, but not for lack of us trying to help).  I'll be waiting breathlessly........
I REALLY don't want any part of this argument, don't want to get personal, but I would point out here that this isn't the same thing at all...
10/31/2010 1:26 PM
Posted by beachedwhale on 10/31/2010 12:42:00 PM (view original):
Posted by girt25 on 10/31/2010 12:27:00 PM (view original):
Posted by emy1013 on 10/31/2010 12:24:00 PM (view original):
Posted by daalter on 10/31/2010 12:17:00 PM (view original):
emy, have you seen that show "What Would You Do?" It stages fake situations that call for innocent bystanders to step up and say something/help out/etc. Some people do stand up, and others just ignore it and go about their normal day.

Has your place of employment convinced you to pick up a "Stop Snitching" mentality?
I work in a prison Daalter, snitching can be VERY dangerous.  I've seen, firsthand, throats cut because of it.  So, no, I don't snitch.  Ever.

And before any of you "lawyerly"-types try to call me out for an early post about reporting the situation to CS, notice I said someone, not me.  I've got NO problem with wisefella's actions, whatsoever.
I know you work in a prison, that's specifically why I asked you the question.

So I see where you stand now. You'd be one of the people on "What Would You Do?" that walked past and just went on with your life. I'd be one of the people that spoke up and helped. I'm totally comfortable with that. Sounds like you are, too.
I really didn't think it was possible for Daalter to become a more self-absorbed ***** than he already is, but this might take the cake.

Daalter interjects himself in a conversation revolving a team that is (1) is not his, (2) is not in his conference, (3) not even in his world.

As the Daalter-created controversy is discussed in the thread, no real discussion takes place because Daalter makes sure to post twice for every post that counters his opinion.  Of course, he wins every argument with these three words, "You are wrong."  No viewpoint to his could possibly be reasonable.  

And then Daalter then proceeds to change the tone of the thread to let all of us know that not only is he our intellectual superior, but he's our moral superior as well.  Myself and the others that post in this thread would see a rape taking place and simply put our heads down and walk in the other direction.  Only Daalter has the moral fiber to do the right thing and stop the rape.
Not sure whose alias this is, but I kinda get the impression that he's not a Daalter fan.......ouch.
10/31/2010 2:13 PM
Posted by dahsdebater on 10/31/2010 1:26:00 PM (view original):
Posted by emy1013 on 10/31/2010 12:35:00 PM (view original):
Posted by girt25 on 10/31/2010 12:27:00 PM (view original):
Posted by emy1013 on 10/31/2010 12:24:00 PM (view original):
Posted by daalter on 10/31/2010 12:17:00 PM (view original):
emy, have you seen that show "What Would You Do?" It stages fake situations that call for innocent bystanders to step up and say something/help out/etc. Some people do stand up, and others just ignore it and go about their normal day.

Has your place of employment convinced you to pick up a "Stop Snitching" mentality?
I work in a prison Daalter, snitching can be VERY dangerous.  I've seen, firsthand, throats cut because of it.  So, no, I don't snitch.  Ever.

And before any of you "lawyerly"-types try to call me out for an early post about reporting the situation to CS, notice I said someone, not me.  I've got NO problem with wisefella's actions, whatsoever.
I know you work in a prison, that's specifically why I asked you the question.

So I see where you stand now. You'd be one of the people on "What Would You Do?" that walked past and just went on with your life. I'd be one of the people that spoke up and helped. I'm totally comfortable with that. Sounds like you are, too.
Daalter, the only thing you know about me is what VERY little I've posted on here.  Do me a favor, huh, leave the psychoanalyzing to a qualified professional.  "Helping" and "telling" are two entirely different animals.  Night and Day, as you like to say.  You have NO idea how you, or anyone else, would react in a given situation until the situation presents itself.  You say you'd speak up and help, I say you'd cry like a little girl with a skinned knee.  Guess we'll never know.

Since I'm one of the people who would just "go on with my life", explain to me why I just wasted my time then, two months ago, trying to help give CPR to a man who had suffered a massive heart attack (he died, by the way, but not for lack of us trying to help).  I'll be waiting breathlessly........
I REALLY don't want any part of this argument, don't want to get personal, but I would point out here that this isn't the same thing at all...

This is getting boring, so I'm gonna quit, but one question before I go.  How is this not the "same thing at all"?  Daalt claims he would stop and that I would walk on by.  Since this directly contradicts Daalter's "highly qualified" analysis of my attitude towards society in general, how does it not apply?  Explain please, I'm missing something..... 

 

10/31/2010 2:16 PM
Posted by a_in_the_b on 10/31/2010 1:05:00 PM (view original):
Posted by emy1013 on 10/31/2010 12:27:00 PM (view original):
Posted by daalter on 10/31/2010 12:17:00 PM (view original):
emy, have you seen that show "What Would You Do?" It stages fake situations that call for innocent bystanders to step up and say something/help out/etc. Some people do stand up, and others just ignore it and go about their normal day.

Has your place of employment convinced you to pick up a "Stop Snitching" mentality?
I work in a prison Daalter, snitching can be VERY dangerous.  I've seen, firsthand, throats cut because of it.  So, no, I don't snitch.  Ever.

And before any of you "lawyerly"-types try to call me out for an early post about reporting the situation to CS, notice I said someone, not me.  I've got NO problem with wisefella's actions, whatsoever.

Trey said it best a few posts earlier.  If one bad team causes him to miss the NT, his team probably wasn't that good anyway.  It'll all work itself out gentlemen, be patient (that seems to be the mantra around here anyway, "Give it a few seasons to cycle through......").

And did you miss THIS line?:

 

"This is actually TONS of fun and I am thinking of getting even more seasons"


 

How many times are you gonna post this?  And do you actually believe EVERYTHING you hear?
10/31/2010 2:17 PM
Posted by emy1013 on 10/31/2010 12:27:00 PM:
I work in a prison

I did not know that.

It explains a great deal about the way you seem to view the world though.
10/31/2010 2:25 PM
Posted by beachedwhale on 10/31/2010 12:42:00 PM (view original):
Posted by girt25 on 10/31/2010 12:27:00 PM (view original):
Posted by emy1013 on 10/31/2010 12:24:00 PM (view original):
Posted by daalter on 10/31/2010 12:17:00 PM (view original):
emy, have you seen that show "What Would You Do?" It stages fake situations that call for innocent bystanders to step up and say something/help out/etc. Some people do stand up, and others just ignore it and go about their normal day.

Has your place of employment convinced you to pick up a "Stop Snitching" mentality?
I work in a prison Daalter, snitching can be VERY dangerous.  I've seen, firsthand, throats cut because of it.  So, no, I don't snitch.  Ever.

And before any of you "lawyerly"-types try to call me out for an early post about reporting the situation to CS, notice I said someone, not me.  I've got NO problem with wisefella's actions, whatsoever.
I know you work in a prison, that's specifically why I asked you the question.

So I see where you stand now. You'd be one of the people on "What Would You Do?" that walked past and just went on with your life. I'd be one of the people that spoke up and helped. I'm totally comfortable with that. Sounds like you are, too.
I really didn't think it was possible for Daalter to become a more self-absorbed ***** than he already is, but this might take the cake.

Daalter interjects himself in a conversation revolving a team that is (1) is not his, (2) is not in his conference, (3) not even in his world.

As the Daalter-created controversy is discussed in the thread, no real discussion takes place because Daalter makes sure to post twice for every post that counters his opinion.  Of course, he wins every argument with these three words, "You are wrong."  No viewpoint to his could possibly be reasonable.  

And then Daalter then proceeds to change the tone of the thread to let all of us know that not only is he our intellectual superior, but he's our moral superior as well.  Myself and the others that post in this thread would see a rape taking place and simply put our heads down and walk in the other direction.  Only Daalter has the moral fiber to do the right thing and stop the rape.
failwhale would have been a better handle for this alias.
10/31/2010 2:27 PM
Posted by antonsirius on 10/31/2010 2:25:00 PM (view original):
Posted by emy1013 on 10/31/2010 12:27:00 PM:
I work in a prison

I did not know that.

It explains a great deal about the way you seem to view the world though.
Unfortunately, yes, working in a prison has definitely changed the way I view things.
10/31/2010 2:29 PM
I won't put in my two cents to the underlying argument but i fail to see how anything he is doing has to do with class?  my only suggestion is to change the title to the thread since it doesn't make much sense.
10/31/2010 2:52 PM

Not to be nosey, but why did he want to leave Syracuse in the first place.?

Where did he apply that he thought it would be better? 

In real life, are they not a top 10 job?
10/31/2010 3:58 PM
that's pretty jackazz is how to do. purposefully ruin a team for several seasons in the future for whatever coach takes over. if you're ****** off get a refund and leave the game, don't ruin it for other people.

that's like people who lose as risk and instead of getting up and leaving they throw the board so no one else can play either.
10/31/2010 4:17 PM
Posted by girt25 on 10/31/2010 12:00:00 PM (view original):
Posted by colonels19 on 10/31/2010 11:14:00 AM (view original):
If this is his way to bite back at WIS for a subpar hiring logic, then I don't see this as a bad thing.  How else is he going to get back at WIS?  He's just to grin and bear it just because it's more convenient for the rest of you?  How effing selfish are you guys.  Get screwed like this guy did, then get back to me, until then, let the man make his stand and deal with it as he sees it to be appropriate.  It's funny how high and mighty you all get when something eventually doesn't go your way via another user.

I don't really care what the TOS says, he paid for the seasons, it's his team and as far as I'm concerned, he can do whatever the hell he wants with it.  If you're ****** about conference RPI, tough, you should back your peer in his stance against the hiring logic policy instead of turning your back on him.
Colonels, do you not get the fact that these actions are NOT getting back at WIS. Not hurting them at all. Only hurting his conference mates.

If he was doing something that actually hurt WIS and didn't hurt his conference mates, then even though it might still be wrong or a clear violation of the TOS, at least it would be a two-sided issue. This is clear as day -- not only is he wrong, but the only people he's screwing are those in his conference.
Ok, but then how else does he get back at WIS/the game for this happening?  I'd love to hear the instead of.  Again, your solution just seems to be that he should bend over and continue to take it in the ***, and that just because it didn't happen to you, that he shouldn't have done it.  You're being incredibly selfish here...again, step in the man's shoes, and get back to me...
10/31/2010 5:19 PM
Posted by a_in_the_b on 10/31/2010 12:17:00 PM (view original):
Posted by colonels19 on 10/31/2010 11:14:00 AM (view original):
If this is his way to bite back at WIS for a subpar hiring logic, then I don't see this as a bad thing.  How else is he going to get back at WIS?  He's just to grin and bear it just because it's more convenient for the rest of you?  How effing selfish are you guys.  Get screwed like this guy did, then get back to me, until then, let the man make his stand and deal with it as he sees it to be appropriate.  It's funny how high and mighty you all get when something eventually doesn't go your way via another user.

I don't really care what the TOS says, he paid for the seasons, it's his team and as far as I'm concerned, he can do whatever the hell he wants with it.  If you're ****** about conference RPI, tough, you should back your peer in his stance against the hiring logic policy instead of turning your back on him.

So, Colonels, if you don't care about the TOS, you think that anyone who has a disagreement  with you should be able to violate the terms of any contract they have with you and it will be a - ok?

 

The guy feels that he got screwed by the system, and a lot of folks seem to think that he has a legitimate argument, so if he's not supposed/allowed to raise his black-gloved fist in defiance by flushing his team down the can to make a stand, then what's a suitable alternative for him to make a statement?  I don't give a damn who/what he hurt, he's making the most powerful statement you can make...why shouldn't he?

Like I said, it seems the only right answer here for most of you is that wisefella should merely grin and bear it and "wait til next year"...well you know what...bullshit.  I guess the only other credible alternative is hunrdeds of dollars in refunds for the money wisefella wasted...
10/31/2010 5:29 PM
Posted by colonels19 on 10/31/2010 5:29:00 PM (view original):
Posted by a_in_the_b on 10/31/2010 12:17:00 PM (view original):
Posted by colonels19 on 10/31/2010 11:14:00 AM (view original):
If this is his way to bite back at WIS for a subpar hiring logic, then I don't see this as a bad thing.  How else is he going to get back at WIS?  He's just to grin and bear it just because it's more convenient for the rest of you?  How effing selfish are you guys.  Get screwed like this guy did, then get back to me, until then, let the man make his stand and deal with it as he sees it to be appropriate.  It's funny how high and mighty you all get when something eventually doesn't go your way via another user.

I don't really care what the TOS says, he paid for the seasons, it's his team and as far as I'm concerned, he can do whatever the hell he wants with it.  If you're ****** about conference RPI, tough, you should back your peer in his stance against the hiring logic policy instead of turning your back on him.

So, Colonels, if you don't care about the TOS, you think that anyone who has a disagreement  with you should be able to violate the terms of any contract they have with you and it will be a - ok?

 

The guy feels that he got screwed by the system, and a lot of folks seem to think that he has a legitimate argument, so if he's not supposed/allowed to raise his black-gloved fist in defiance by flushing his team down the can to make a stand, then what's a suitable alternative for him to make a statement?  I don't give a damn who/what he hurt, he's making the most powerful statement you can make...why shouldn't he?

Like I said, it seems the only right answer here for most of you is that wisefella should merely grin and bear it and "wait til next year"...well you know what...bullshit.  I guess the only other credible alternative is hunrdeds of dollars in refunds for the money wisefella wasted...

YOu failed to answer the question, colonels;  do you think that 'being angry' is a valid reason for violating a contract?

At least asking for refunded money would be appropriate, unlike what he did.
 

 

10/31/2010 5:45 PM
Posted by elava on 10/31/2010 12:30:00 PM (view original):
I had nearly the exact same thing happen to me in Smith earlier this year. I was only a season or 2 removed from a National Championship, I'd pulled Wake Forest up to a solid A+, and my dream school Indiana (finally) became available. I thought I had it. I SHOULD have had it. But hiring is a mess. The coach of B-prestige So. Miss, who hadn't done anything special but had gone to a S16 the past year while I was a R1 flameout, got the job instead -- in spite of the fact that by any other calculation than last year's NT result, I had a huge advantage over him.

So, I got enraged, threw my toys out of the crib, sent WIS a nasty note and quit at Wake. Quit the game entirely for 3 months or so. Just needed to cool off a good long while before I could come back and play again.

You can definitely say I understand how Wise feels. Oh, I've been there.

But that said, there is ZERO excuse for burning conference friends and the whole world you play in by dynamiting a top program. It doesn't hurt WIS in the slightest. It sure as hell doesn't hurt Fox -- I don't know if you could find 5 people in the organization who even remember that they bought the company a few years ago (much less have a clue as to why the powers that were then, who are all now gone, might have bought it or what they ought to do with it now). But it SCREWS innocent people paying money to play a game.

Also, have to say that perhaps the single least-shocking thing I've heard in a while has to be that Furry stridently defends classless behavior. Surprise, surprise, surprise . . . . 


Here are some facts... If he asked WIS to remove him from coaching, it'd be sim ran because coach sign ups were over with, and likely ran for a couple seasons into the ground. They'd have been bad, but I'm guessing you are okay with that because sim ai is doing it and not a coach. The second option is just ghost ship his season out. Again, he'd be bad. Even worse then if sim ran it, but once a coach took it over they could quickly fill up the 'ships and get a super class. Look at what I did at caldwell my first couple seasons. I had 10 new recruits, and we made it to the title game in 4 seasons. The last option is do what he did. They'd be bad, but its a much quicker result of option 2. How much worse would they be? Either way likely winless. With sim ai they are probably less then a 10 win team regardless. No matter what he did, he wasn't going to help. However, trying to blame someone getting "screwed" because of ONE team that would have been bad no matter what they did is laughable. I play winless teams almost every year and STILL end up with the #1 RPI/SOS every year. In fact, we have multiple teams in our conf with top 10 SOS. If you missed out on a bid it wasn't because of what 1 team did or didn't do. That **** isn't even noticeable. If it was half a conf worth of people maybe, but 1 coach? No issue.
10/31/2010 5:46 PM
Posted by colonels19 on 10/31/2010 5:19:00 PM (view original):
Posted by girt25 on 10/31/2010 12:00:00 PM (view original):
Posted by colonels19 on 10/31/2010 11:14:00 AM (view original):
If this is his way to bite back at WIS for a subpar hiring logic, then I don't see this as a bad thing.  How else is he going to get back at WIS?  He's just to grin and bear it just because it's more convenient for the rest of you?  How effing selfish are you guys.  Get screwed like this guy did, then get back to me, until then, let the man make his stand and deal with it as he sees it to be appropriate.  It's funny how high and mighty you all get when something eventually doesn't go your way via another user.

I don't really care what the TOS says, he paid for the seasons, it's his team and as far as I'm concerned, he can do whatever the hell he wants with it.  If you're ****** about conference RPI, tough, you should back your peer in his stance against the hiring logic policy instead of turning your back on him.
Colonels, do you not get the fact that these actions are NOT getting back at WIS. Not hurting them at all. Only hurting his conference mates.

If he was doing something that actually hurt WIS and didn't hurt his conference mates, then even though it might still be wrong or a clear violation of the TOS, at least it would be a two-sided issue. This is clear as day -- not only is he wrong, but the only people he's screwing are those in his conference.
Ok, but then how else does he get back at WIS/the game for this happening?  I'd love to hear the instead of.  Again, your solution just seems to be that he should bend over and continue to take it in the ***, and that just because it didn't happen to you, that he shouldn't have done it.  You're being incredibly selfish here...again, step in the man's shoes, and get back to me...
Exactly how does his action "get back at WIS"? Maybe you can explain that to me, because from where I'm sitting, what he's doing has no negative impact on WIS. 

Does it cost the company money? No...they've already got his money, and from at least one post he's thinking of adding money to keep doing it. So if anything, not only is he not "getting back at" he's actually going to be financially PROMOTING the behavior that has him flipping out in more flavors than Baskin Robbins has ice cream in the first place. 

Is he driving other users away? Doesn't look like it...he might force them out of the conference, but I doubt what he's going to do is likely to prompt anyone to quit the game, so he's not having a ripple effect of knocking other users out of the game. Again, no impact to WIS. 

As for real ways he might "get back at WIS"...let's stop and think here...

1. Post to every and any basketball/sim-game forum out there...point out the shortcomings of the hiring logic, recruit generation or whatever other issues he may have. It's not like this is the only game in town. If fresh blood suddenly stops trickling in, people engaged in a profit-driven business tend to start noticing. We already know that most of the traffic to WIS is via word-of-mouth because they don't advertise their products for a darn...if the word-of-mouth reports start sounding sour, that'll have an impact. 

2. Organize an on-site protest...evidently there are a few other people here that agree. Organize a walk-out of like-minded folks. Everyone demand refunds and be specific about why. If it creates enough of an impact, folks notice. If it's really the problem he thinks it is, getting other people to join the cause shouldn't be a problem.

3. Boycott all other WIS products (if he's in any)...doesn't make any sense to demand a refund from here if you're just turning around and using that money to get Gridiron or Hardball dynasty seasons instead...they're still getting their money. 

I'm sure there are other ways...I've just listed three that crossed my mind in 60 seconds. I bet with the brilliant minds on here there's plenty of other methods that could be employed. It's really not hard to target your actions against the guilty parties rather than behaving like the schoolyard bully who's taking the ball and going home because he's not allowed to pitch. 
10/31/2010 5:46 PM
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