Posted by oldresorter on 12/17/2010 10:44:00 AM (view original):
@jet - I sort of explained my reason poorly, I think IQ still allows weaker teams with 4 year starters to compete with stronger frosh teams.  I am on board with this as both a good idea and fair.  I am not positive how much of a change this is in IQ, as a change in my own perception.  It might just be with more variety in ratings the value of IQ has resurfaced.  D3 coaches might have a better idea on this, as D3 has always had variety.  This past season in Crum, I saw 2 very low IQ teams just get hammered, one with the #1 recruiting class in the country and a A+ prestige coach / program.

I will get a view first hand this season, as I have a team with no seniors, one junior, 3 sophs, and 6 frosh, not a very good team either, exactly one player who is above B IQ.  That team is missing 4 EE's and had an awful local recruiting market, it is arguable I have 4 or 5 players on the 10 man team who are d2 level players, again, an A+ school with a pretty decent coach.

One of the reasons I posted this was to find out how strong others think IQ's impact is?

OR, my d2 dynasty has 0 seniors this year, and is getting bowled over. 9-14, 55 rpi. i guess that might not sound too bad but in my long history of running this program with 3 good years and 1 bad year, i have never seen a bad year like this. the conf is really strong so that is probably part of it. but without a doubt, this is the worst any team i have ever paid attention to has done since i was a rookie. their weakness is glaring - iq - and i don't feel there is anything else particularly interesting about them. so i would definitely buy that iq is more important than it was 10 months ago.

they have also lost 8 of their last 9. which is surprising - usually these kind of teams get a lot better as the season progresses. but they aren't, and i don't know why. maybe seble just upped the iq differentiation at the higher iq grades.

Posted by coach_billyg on 12/18/2010 12:20:00 PM (view original):
they have also lost 8 of their last 9. which is surprising - usually these kind of teams get a lot better as the season progresses. but they aren't, and i don't know why. maybe seble just upped the iq differentiation at the higher iq grades.

I had the same exact squad last season as I do this year.  Last season, barely make the PIT and this year a force (1 loss, #1 RPI).  The only real difference is the IQ's.  Stamina is barely improved, speed/ath are barely improved.  IQ's have had 25 minutes in, and are much improved.  I think there's a huge uptick in performance somewhere along the IQ ladder.

I have a team this season that thru 4 EE's in 2 seasons  and 5 seniors graduating, has only 1 player better than B IQ on the roster.  Not only are my IQ's bad, but my team total (with 2 walkons) is 594.  This is a d1 Texas team with A+ prestige and supposedly a decent coach at the wheel - I started a tracking thread in the knight forum - I may even game plan with this team I am in so much trouble.  I did win my first exhib by ten vs a 591 sim team, so lookout.

Posted by oldresorter on 12/17/2010 10:00:00 AM (view original):
I have been fooling around a little with the engine of late.  It seems from my perspective, that FCP was fixed (honestly fixed) by making it more susceptible to fatigue, more requiring stamina.  Now that we have team averages, it appears 80 team average stamina is great, and 76-78 is pretty good. 

I don't think you can win a national title FCP without a starting ten near 80 in stamina, as well as all the other core skills required to win it all.  I also think FCP used to have the least trouble vs an equal or superior team (i.e. in the NT), now I think it has the most trouble with such a team.  Not impossible for a FCP team to win it all, just harder than it used to be. 

If I had to rate the odds of which defense you run, and it's impact on winning it all, I would rate m2m 1.1, fcp 1.0, and zone .9.  But, I do think zone has its place, there are reasons and ways to run zone to maximize some teams, but not the traditional ryan75 west conn or dr gill or lostmyth dynasty type teams, man is the way to win with those now, just as fcp used to be.

I also am of the opinion, when seble realized what he did with ratings, he upped the impact of IQ again, for those around long enough, again, IMO, returned it more to where it was at 6 or 8 years, not HD seasons, ago.

All opinion, like many things in this game, no one knows for fact what is going on except the game designers, and they have kept us all guessing, some of us for near 8 years now, I don't think there is any reason to think things will change, so guess away!

OR, I certainly agree with several things you say here. One thing that I think it really off base/overstated is trying to compare m2m right now to press before it was fixed. Press in the old engine was just ridiculously dominant. M2M may or may not be the all-around strongest right now, but if it is it's by a small factor (as you said above), so I don't think we can even begin to compare it with the old press, which was flat-out broken.

One of my only gripes with HD at the moment is the improvement of stamina for individual players. IMHO, it is much to difficult to substantially increase player stamina; given that the increase in stamina now mirrors the rate & conditions related to other attributes, yet (from what I have noticed) is subject to the largest decreases during the off-season. I think the system would function just fine if one of the frequencies related to increase or decrease were tweaked.

I think it's the decreases during the offseason that need to be done away with (or just significantly reduced).

Posted by girt25 on 12/19/2010 8:57:00 PM (view original):
I think it's the decreases during the offseason that need to be done away with (or just significantly reduced).

I couldn't agree more, but I would settle for significantly reduced.