With the big changes in the game from the early seasons, it is just about impossible for a kid to set a school record, especially in any of the cumulative categories, especially at BCS schools. The records are mostly held by players from the first ten seasons or so, when all BCS schools were SIM coached and when fatigue in the engine then allowed players to play huge minutes.

Its not in the top ten of things I'd like to fix, but is there some way we could see modern records? need a clever idea for this.......great players in this day rarely get into even the top ten all time.
12/25/2010 1:31 PM
I've always wished for the same thing.  Or, at least expand the list to the top 25.  But your idea is better...giving us a modern-day record list
12/25/2010 3:00 PM
Just banning seasons 1-9 off the records list, like they did with stats from the early days of baseball, would accomplish this fairly well, IMHO.  
12/25/2010 4:44 PM
There are several reasonable ways for them to accomplish this, each with its own issue, but still: 

wipe out seasons 1-x
wipe out SIM-recruited players
wipe out players never coached by a human

whatever's easiest in their code is fine with me.

What I'd also like to have is personal player records, whether it be at a school or in my career. How cool would that be? 
12/25/2010 8:36 PM
I just had a kid break the school and conference record for scoring a few seasons ago. Andrew Williams at Valdosta St in Knight...played seasons 26-30 (just finished season 33) and 6 of the top 25 scorers in D II Knight were recruited season 26 or later (16 of the top 25 season 20 or later)...not so sure its as impossible as all that...
12/25/2010 8:50 PM
I only play in Naismith and Wooden-- it's much tougher there, where the early seasons were vastly different from what we're playing now. That said, I've seen some true studs and great players in d3 and d2 recently. Mostly hard to break records at an established program, no matter where, I think. 
12/25/2010 9:04 PM
Its doable in Knight and Phelan and some of the other younger worlds - very rare in older worlds
12/25/2010 11:11 PM
Yes, I don't think Knight and Phelan were in existence in the 'old' game.  Back then, it was very common for players to log 30-35 minutes a game and, consequently, have more opportunities to pad their stats.

EXAMPLE: I've been at Transylvania (Iba DIII) since the beginning. My top 7 scorers are all prior to season #16.  My #8 guy, who played seasons 41-44, logged  1300 minutes fewer than the #1 guy (from season 5-8)

At Kentucky St. (Smith DII), my #1 scorer is from seasons #1-4. My #2 guy is from last season. He played 15 more games than my leading scorer but logged 800 fewer minutes.
12/26/2010 5:48 AM (edited)
Posted by alblack56 on 12/26/2010 5:48:00 AM (view original):
Yes, I don't think Knight and Phelan were in existence in the 'old' game.  Back then, it was very common for players to log 30-35 minutes a game and, consequently, have more opportunities to pad their stats.

EXAMPLE: I've been at Transylvania (Iba DIII) since the beginning. My top 7 scorers are all prior to season #16.  My #8 guy, who played seasons 41-44, logged  1300 minutes fewer than the #1 guy (from season 5-8)

At Kentucky St. (Smith DII), my #1 scorer is from seasons #1-4. My #2 guy is from last season. He played 15 more games than my leading scorer but logged 800 fewer minutes.
That makes sense. I hadn't considered that since I'm a noob...(at least when discussing the "old" game - I say that with the same kind of reverence usually reserved for the ancient one - Cthulu)
12/26/2010 6:51 AM
I agree at DI almost all the top record holders are from the early days, but at the D2 and D3 levels it's generally spread out fairly equal with the exception of minutes played and rebounds. 
and the new guys should continue to pop up disproportionally on the FG% lists with the current engine.
12/26/2010 9:43 AM
Posted by wronoj on 12/25/2010 8:36:00 PM (view original):
There are several reasonable ways for them to accomplish this, each with its own issue, but still: 

wipe out seasons 1-x
wipe out SIM-recruited players
wipe out players never coached by a human

whatever's easiest in their code is fine with me.

What I'd also like to have is personal player records, whether it be at a school or in my career. How cool would that be? 
I like all these ideas, but I'd rather see a toggle option than a wipe out...taking a look at the players you've coached/recruited is very cool though.  I've tabbed all of my players stats since I've comeback in 12-09, so I can pretty much do this on my own if/when I get them input into me database.
12/26/2010 10:36 AM
i just had a player finish top 5, season 42 DIII CRUM world Transyvania Univ., and he had 200 to 300 minutes more than the #6 & #7 scorers who played in the first 5 seasons. My Player only avg. 21.3 minutes for his career.
12/26/2010 12:32 PM
problem is most sigmificant at BCS schools in older worlds, as noted in prior posts
12/26/2010 1:19 PM
Posted by dacj501 on 12/25/2010 8:50:00 PM (view original):
I just had a kid break the school and conference record for scoring a few seasons ago. Andrew Williams at Valdosta St in Knight...played seasons 26-30 (just finished season 33) and 6 of the top 25 scorers in D II Knight were recruited season 26 or later (16 of the top 25 season 20 or later)...not so sure its as impossible as all that...
scoring is by far the easiest (IMO) area to pick up the records. compared to early sim coached players at least. they just milk them too long against too easy of competition to ever hope to have a level playing field.
12/26/2010 10:59 PM
i would be for knocking out any players who werent coached by a human seems to be the best way
12/27/2010 2:24 AM
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