Computer Game-planning Failure Topic

This isn't the first time something like this has happened to me this season, but I think it displays a glaring weakness in the computer adjustments which are supposed to help the user.

This was one of my most important games of the year and I'm up at half. 

I'm slightly losing the battle on the boards (20-17), but they are shooting only average from 3 (about 40%). 

So it would make sense for the halftime adjustment to pack my defense in and attempt to control the boards. But instead, it switches us from -3 to -1 and we end up getting out-rebounded 24-14 and they hit 50% from 3 in the second half. 

This is why we should have more control over our halftime adjustments. 

1/22/2011 12:22 AM
If you give up 40% from 3 on average, can you really still have important games?
1/22/2011 12:32 AM
the adjustment process is not based on a broad strategic evaluation - the plus minus adjustment looks at points in the paint and outside shots by the opponent and adjusts to what you are allowing, how they are scoring.  if you dont like that sort of adjustment, dont do it.  Personally, I use the adjustment when losing not when winning - I dont want the adjustment to take me away from a set that is working
1/22/2011 3:02 AM
40% from 3 is not average IMO
1/22/2011 3:33 AM
fd343ny is right. The adjustments aren't related to rebounding, only shot attempts.  

I haven't let the computer decide my halftime adjustments in over 30 seasons. The last time I did so was in the NT game. I was up by 9 at the half and, after the automatic adjustment, lost in OT.

So now, I base my halftime adjustments on this question, "Versus this opponent, what halftime score would be satisfactory?"   I make my adjustments accordingly.
1/22/2011 4:37 AM
Posted by car_crazy_v2 on 1/22/2011 12:22:00 AM (view original):
This isn't the first time something like this has happened to me this season, but I think it displays a glaring weakness in the computer adjustments which are supposed to help the user.

This was one of my most important games of the year and I'm up at half. 

I'm slightly losing the battle on the boards (20-17), but they are shooting only average from 3 (about 40%). 

So it would make sense for the halftime adjustment to pack my defense in and attempt to control the boards. But instead, it switches us from -3 to -1 and we end up getting out-rebounded 24-14 and they hit 50% from 3 in the second half. 

This is why we should have more control over our halftime adjustments. 

First, fd was dead on. Things like the fact that rebounding was 20-17 have no impact on halftime adjustments. It's about a team's gameplan against you (inside shots vs. outside) and how your +/- defense adjusts to that.

You did not get outrebounded because of the change. You got outrebounded in the second half -- and lost the game -- because your team couldn't hit the broad side of the barn, shooting 10 for 27 and scoring 26 points on those 27 shots, which is anemic. (As an aside, defensive positioning only has a very slight impact on rebounding.) You also turned the ball over 10 times in the second half vs. 5 time in the first. I'm sorry, but to think that defensive positioning lost you the game is to ignore reality.

You also went uptempo vs. a clearly superior team, which was mistake #1.
1/22/2011 10:17 AM
Posted by zbrent716 on 1/22/2011 12:32:00 AM (view original):
If you give up 40% from 3 on average, can you really still have important games?
Well they are a very efficient 3-pt shooting team so I would be happy with 40%.
1/22/2011 10:28 AM
Posted by girt25 on 1/22/2011 10:17:00 AM (view original):
Posted by car_crazy_v2 on 1/22/2011 12:22:00 AM (view original):
This isn't the first time something like this has happened to me this season, but I think it displays a glaring weakness in the computer adjustments which are supposed to help the user.

This was one of my most important games of the year and I'm up at half. 

I'm slightly losing the battle on the boards (20-17), but they are shooting only average from 3 (about 40%). 

So it would make sense for the halftime adjustment to pack my defense in and attempt to control the boards. But instead, it switches us from -3 to -1 and we end up getting out-rebounded 24-14 and they hit 50% from 3 in the second half. 

This is why we should have more control over our halftime adjustments. 

First, fd was dead on. Things like the fact that rebounding was 20-17 have no impact on halftime adjustments. It's about a team's gameplan against you (inside shots vs. outside) and how your +/- defense adjusts to that.

You did not get outrebounded because of the change. You got outrebounded in the second half -- and lost the game -- because your team couldn't hit the broad side of the barn, shooting 10 for 27 and scoring 26 points on those 27 shots, which is anemic. (As an aside, defensive positioning only has a very slight impact on rebounding.) You also turned the ball over 10 times in the second half vs. 5 time in the first. I'm sorry, but to think that defensive positioning lost you the game is to ignore reality.

You also went uptempo vs. a clearly superior team, which was mistake #1.
Mmmm... I understand but when my team is on a roll, it's hard to get me to change my gameplan much. 
1/22/2011 10:31 AM
All due respect ... that's a big mistake and imho one of the biggest reasons you haven't really been able to get over the hump.
1/22/2011 10:41 AM
Posted by girt25 on 1/22/2011 10:41:00 AM (view original):
All due respect ... that's a big mistake and imho one of the biggest reasons you haven't really been able to get over the hump.
I suppose it may be. I'll just have to force myself to from now on.
1/23/2011 2:42 AM
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