Posted by coach_billyg on 1/25/2011 11:26:00 AM (view original):

Posted by uglyskunk3 on 1/25/2011 8:23:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tianyi7886 on 1/25/2011 12:53:00 AM (view original):
I'm trollish? This is coming from a guy who opposes anyone w/o a D3 NC to comment about D3, and thinks that multiple D1-D2 NCs are worthless? This is coming from a guy who has said the following, and various version of the following:

""its not hard to win at d3" w. i just looked at your record hot shot and you didn't win jack at d3. do you really think your wins with north carolina mean more then my d3 championships? they don't. "

And it looks like I'm not the only one who thinks you are being overtly hostile, because earlier on, dcy said the same thing. 

And I think you are the one who started the name calling with knucklehead? And if I'm such a knucklehead and as you said, you are not accusing him of those NCs not existing, why do you bother checking over his resumes extensively (obviously not extensive enough) and keep asking where those NCs are, even after it's clear from the posts by dahs and coach_billyg himself that they are in Rupp, under his coach_billyg acct?

If simple logic and being thorough when one makes accusations (which you clearly are with your posts, implying those NCs don't exist) trollish, then you have my sincere apology of me being a logical and thorough perrson. 

yes you are being a troll. i "oppose anyone w/o a d3 nc to comment about d3"???? that isn't what i said. that statement alone makes your actions trollish. that comment is directed at one poster, gillespie, on the context that i only knew him as gillespie not his four other usernames. for that you are a troll. at that time i didn't know he was billyg. at that time he was a coach who had only won with cherry picking d1 teams. so in context to that i didn't think a guy who couldn't get out the first round of the nt in d3 should make comments about d3. fanning the flames makes you a troll. read before you post.

"thinks that multiple d1, d2 nc are worthless"????????? once again i never made that statement. again that makes you a troll. i'm defending d3 championships value, and i'd be happy to say and know that they are on equal footing to d1, d2 championships. he pointed out the flaws of d3 and i pointed out the flaws of d1. so once again your actions are trollish.

hostile? more like defensive. i would always defend what i say and what i mean and when someone like yourself manipulates the meaning, or infers devious motives i tend to get a bit hostile. i'm surprised because your normally okay person on here, but your actions over the last several hours are atrocious.

wow. you just went from having little credibility and sort of being a ***** to having 0 credibility and being an *******. i never said one bad thing about you. but you call what is objectively one of a very few accomplishment in the running for the greatest ever, only winning with cherry picked teams? you obviously don't know your head from your *******, but if they works for you, then hey, go with it.

and tianyi is a good guy. its pretty clear you are the dick in this thread, hopefully by now most coaches have stopped reading your useless dribble. have a nice day, as they say, ignorance is bliss! 

Posted by coach_billyg on 1/25/2011 11:57:00 AM (view original):
skunk, why you think my post about d3 was a shot at you, i don't know. but it wasn't. and you said per only mattered for 3s. that is dead wrong. i pointed that out. nothing wrong with it. if you post something so wrong again, i will post a dissenting opinion again. thats how the forums work... and its important for younger coaches who don't know enough to see immediately that you are dead wrong, that there are other opinions out there. thats all.

i don't care that you don't know my different names and all that. its still every bit as ridiculous that you would call me out for comparing d3 to d1 by my d3 resume when you are stating your opinion on the same subject without ever having played a GAME in d1. why don't you give that a try and then get back to me on how hard it is to win championships there? and besides, my d1 resume on gillispie has nothing to do with anything else i've done, so you can't hide your cherry picking nonsense behind "i didn't know your names".

finally, you say "so the implication you made that d1 is superior to d3 is a slight at me or any other coach with a d3 championships. ". well, i have almost as many d3 titles as you, so i guess i slighted myself about as much as i slighted you. so maybe you should get over it?

if you had, you know, won a single game in d1, maybe you would understand why people think d1 is harder. d2/d3 are roughly the same, except that d3 worlds are more depleted and thus today many people feel those worlds' titles are the easiest. no doubt some d3 titles are harder to come by than some d2 titles. but d1 is totally different. if you look at the # of d1 vs d2 vs d3 teams of the top 100 coaches in HD or so, there are dramatically more d1 teams. alblack is reknown for being a great coach who doesn't play d1. who is reknown for being a great coach who only plays d1? nobody, because there are SO many of them. the competition in d1 is simply a lot harder, and until you go play d1, your opinion on that really isn't worth two *****. plus, early entries in d1 make it *dramatically* harder to rattle off multiple titles in d1 than in d2/d3. there is absolutely no question on that by coaches who have a clue. so you are being really defense about something that A) you don't know **** about and that B) you are totally wrong about.

Posted by isack24 on 1/25/2011 1:12:00 PM (view original):
"per does only matter for 3's"

No, it doesn't.  End of story.  You're wrong, and there's no one who agrees with you, including the creator of the engine.  Believing that it doesn't have much effect on two-point jumpers is not the same as having no effect.  It has some effect, that's just a fact.

As for this ridiculousness, D1 is harder than D2/D3. It's not even close, really.  How many battles do you have when you recruit?  Probably none, I'd imagine.  Once you get to be an A+ school, which is basically just one great year, you get the pick of any recruits you want who you can pull down.  How tough is that?  At D1, you're constantly in battles, and getting the guy you want is infinitely more difficult.

Yes, I'm sure the comeback will be that you're better than me.  That's fine, I'm sure you are, but that's irrelevant when we're discussing divisions yuo've never played in.  And you're not better than billy, and it's not even close.

That's what you initially stated; there was no "end of the quote."  You took issue with billyg calling you out for the initial post, which he had every right to do because it was wrong. 

You modified it now, great.  I'm glad you did that.  Doesn't change the fact that you made misleading statement and have subsequently gotten upset with everyone who has called you out on it.

Instead of continuing to be an ***, you could just own that you said something totally incorrect, which could be misleading to a new coach, and we can all move on.

Posted by uglyskunk3 on 1/25/2011 1:28:00 PM (view original):

Posted by isack24 on 1/25/2011 1:12:00 PM (view original):
"per does only matter for 3's"

No, it doesn't.  End of story.  You're wrong, and there's no one who agrees with you, including the creator of the engine.  Believing that it doesn't have much effect on two-point jumpers is not the same as having no effect.  It has some effect, that's just a fact.

As for this ridiculousness, D1 is harder than D2/D3. It's not even close, really.  How many battles do you have when you recruit?  Probably none, I'd imagine.  Once you get to be an A+ school, which is basically just one great year, you get the pick of any recruits you want who you can pull down.  How tough is that?  At D1, you're constantly in battles, and getting the guy you want is infinitely more difficult.

Yes, I'm sure the comeback will be that you're better than me.  That's fine, I'm sure you are, but that's irrelevant when we're discussing divisions yuo've never played in.  And you're not better than billy, and it's not even close.

why don't you finish the quote? don't just take a quote without reading the entire post. dumb

btw i took over a d+ prestige d2 school and with a lineup full of sophomores and freshmen i've taken them to the final four of the PIT after less then two full seasons. how yah like me now?

and looking at your resume you should listen to what i say and stop talking about things you don't know anything about.

and i'll finish the quote for you since i don't you think you have the reading skills to get past one sentence. lol i added, "let me clarify the statement a bit for yah. per rating only matters to 3pt frequency adjustments."

Posted by isack24 on 1/25/2011 1:30:00 PM (view original):

Posted by uglyskunk3 on 1/25/2011 1:28:00 PM (view original):

Posted by isack24 on 1/25/2011 1:12:00 PM (view original):
"per does only matter for 3's"

No, it doesn't.  End of story.  You're wrong, and there's no one who agrees with you, including the creator of the engine.  Believing that it doesn't have much effect on two-point jumpers is not the same as having no effect.  It has some effect, that's just a fact.

As for this ridiculousness, D1 is harder than D2/D3. It's not even close, really.  How many battles do you have when you recruit?  Probably none, I'd imagine.  Once you get to be an A+ school, which is basically just one great year, you get the pick of any recruits you want who you can pull down.  How tough is that?  At D1, you're constantly in battles, and getting the guy you want is infinitely more difficult.

Yes, I'm sure the comeback will be that you're better than me.  That's fine, I'm sure you are, but that's irrelevant when we're discussing divisions yuo've never played in.  And you're not better than billy, and it's not even close.

why don't you finish the quote? don't just take a quote without reading the entire post. dumb

btw i took over a d+ prestige d2 school and with a lineup full of sophomores and freshmen i've taken them to the final four of the PIT after less then two full seasons. how yah like me now?

and looking at your resume you should listen to what i say and stop talking about things you don't know anything about.

and i'll finish the quote for you since i don't you think you have the reading skills to get past one sentence. lol i added, "let me clarify the statement a bit for yah. per rating only matters to 3pt frequency adjustments."

I love how I knew exactly what your response would be.  Yeah, I've had minimal success.  Only one NCOY and only a few final fours.  No championships.  I'm not claiming to be a great coach, but I certainly know what the game is about.

As for D2, no, D2 is nothing compared to D1.  It's more fun, that's why I left my D1 program instead of trying to move to a BCS school, but it's not even close to the same.  Until you've played D1, you can't comment on it.  I think that should be pretty obvious.