Posted by Rails on 1/27/2011 8:43:00 AM (view original):

Posted by girt25 on 1/26/2011 10:01:00 PM (view original):
I didn't want this to get lost ...

Honestly, I'm shocked that people like this idea.

This is an insane amount of spoon feeding. Why not just have a computer recruit and set gameplans for us, too? 

So much of recruiting is evaluating who looks good to you ... putting in a program that simply does this for you strikes me as completely awful and terrible for the game.

I can also envision very shortly after when guys will start trading formulas -- this is OR's formula, etc. and people use it. Awful.

And while I'm at it, I'll say that with all of the things in the game that really need to be address -- big and small -- it's stunning to me that after several months of complete radio silence, this is the first contact we're getting. Let's work on really addressing some lingering issues before we worry about an extraneous bell and whistle like this.

That's a little short-sighted.  Granted, it wouldn't be high on the priority list, but I think comparing it to having the computer make decisions for us is off base.  It's simply helping organize things, not making decisions.  Didn't you claim that having multiple ways to limit searches was going to be bad too?  The more I think of it, having the computer help sort things and organize things is not bad.  If an ordinary, two-bit intern could do something, then have at it.  It simply makes things less time consuming and few cuts and pastes. 

Will it give more advantages to those who are in the know?  Probably. But not as much as having schools be able to FSS with a leftover budget and look at recruits for 30 days in advance.

Is it something that I would deem a game changer?  No.  It's not by accident that users flocked to the sidelines once potential and FSS were introduced.  I'd maybe look there first. 

Posted by girt25 on 1/26/2011 10:01:00 PM (view original):
I didn't want this to get lost ...

Honestly, I'm shocked that people like this idea.

This is an insane amount of spoon feeding. Why not just have a computer recruit and set gameplans for us, too? 

So much of recruiting is evaluating who looks good to you ... putting in a program that simply does this for you strikes me as completely awful and terrible for the game.

I can also envision very shortly after when guys will start trading formulas -- this is OR's formula, etc. and people use it. Awful.

And while I'm at it, I'll say that with all of the things in the game that really need to be address -- big and small -- it's stunning to me that after several months of complete radio silence, this is the first contact we're getting. Let's work on really addressing some lingering issues before we worry about an extraneous bell and whistle like this.

Posted by Rails on 1/27/2011 12:30:00 AM (view original):

This feature would do nothing of relavance to either help or hurt the game.

Posted by asher413 on 1/27/2011 10:48:00 AM (view original):
How is what he proposing any different them me going through the pain of copying and pasting the recruits into excel, generating a formula for their overalls, then looking at those at the top?

if I understand the proposal isnt to TELL us what the criteria should be - but rather to embed in the game interface the ability to specify the weight you individually want to give to the ratings - basically to simplify the arithmetic part of the game while not changing any element of the analysis - its just like what one can do with an XLS - seems great to make the game function better and remove the edge that some may have as a result of superior spreadsheet construction facility.....it would be spoon feeding IF HD gave us the right weighting to use...if there exists one right weighting, which I doubt

Posted by fd343ny on 1/27/2011 11:19:00 AM (view original):

if I understand the proposal isnt to TELL us what the criteria should be - but rather to embed in the game interface the ability to specify the weight you individually want to give to the ratings - basically to simplify the arithmetic part of the game while not changing any element of the analysis - its just like what one can do with an XLS - seems great to make the game function better and remove the edge that some may have as a result of superior spreadsheet construction facility.....it would be spoon feeding IF HD gave us the right weighting to use...if there exists one right weighting, which I doubt

Posted by tianyi7886 on 1/27/2011 11:37:00 AM (view original):

Posted by fd343ny on 1/27/2011 11:19:00 AM (view original):

if I understand the proposal isnt to TELL us what the criteria should be - but rather to embed in the game interface the ability to specify the weight you individually want to give to the ratings - basically to simplify the arithmetic part of the game while not changing any element of the analysis - its just like what one can do with an XLS - seems great to make the game function better and remove the edge that some may have as a result of superior spreadsheet construction facility.....it would be spoon feeding IF HD gave us the right weighting to use...if there exists one right weighting, which I doubt

but to be honest, this feature isn't that useful, since it's just current ratings, with no projections based on potential. I think I'm gonna end up sticking with my own spreadsheet anyway. 

Although I have expressed some issues with lack of realism before I believe this would take that to new heights.  This would make it exceedingly easy to recruit players that definitely fit your system.  I do not have a spreadsheet because I find it fun to take gambles on players based on their attributes and how you think they will progress in your system.  I believe this could ruin the effort some put into recruiting as it would be very easy to populate your recruit list absent some digging.

I see this as useful but also feel it takes away many aspects of what make this SIM fun.

Posted by moy23 on 1/27/2011 10:08:00 AM (view original):

Posted by Rails on 1/27/2011 12:30:00 AM (view original):

This feature would do nothing of relavance to either help or hurt the game.

I disagree - there has been a lot of complaining about the new recruit generation curve. This should help (in theory) the majority of coaches to fill that recruiting gap by more easily finding available recruits that fit their system of game play. jmho.