Would this be a successful DIII PG?

Athleticism 37 Average      Perimeter 22 Low
Speed 61 Low                      Ball Handling 66 High
Rebounding 1 Low               Passing 64 High
Defense 39 High                 Stamina 86 Average
Shot Blocking 1 Low            Durability 60 Low
Low-post 1 Average               FT Shooting High

Love the defense, BH, stamina and P, but concerned about the speed. Decent ath for a PG, but not great. Is he fast enough to take advantage of the elite BH and P?


Sort of a related question: what goes into having a guy average 3-4 assists per game? I've never had a PG average 3+ assists in a game. Is it just basically having great passing? I've had a PG with 90 speed and 70 P and he never got more than maybe ~2.5 assists/game. Does having high distro have anything to do with getting more assists? or only more shots?

Rick Golden.  Also gets a ton of TOs for reasons I can't fully discern...  And plays terrible defense...  I think because of his lesser speed this guy wouldn't get as many assists, but he might not turn it over so much either.  And he'd be a heck of a lot more useful defensively...

Here's one of my PGs who averages about 4 apg: Joseph Byrne

Some people will say only go after ath/spd in D3.  I don't know what his WE is, or what off/def you run, but a guy with these ratings:

50 ath
65 spd
60 def
90 bh
90 pass

could definitely be a good D3 PG.  Obviously you're going to need scorers, though.

He reminds me a little bit of this guy who just finished his FR year for my Mt. St. Vincent team in Iba.  I eased him in while I waited for his SPD and ATH to pick up a bit, but he did a pretty good job as a FR PG off the bench.  My guys pass is a bit lower than yours, so your guy shouldn't turn it over quite as much.

http://www.whatifsports.com/hd/PlayerProfile/Ratings.aspx?tid=0&pid=1737078

Posted by dahsdebater on 1/30/2011 8:49:00 PM (view original):
Rick Golden.  Also gets a ton of TOs for reasons I can't fully discern...  And plays terrible defense...  I think because of his lesser speed this guy wouldn't get as many assists, but he might not turn it over so much either.  And he'd be a heck of a lot more useful defensively...

bh.

If can he shoot free throws set his 3 pt to -2, give him the ball with a 20+ distro and run uptempo once his IQ is B+ or so and he will score

can you explain that a little bit dac? what's the reasoning behind such a high distro and uptempo?

He can't shoot free throws very well, especially for a guard. By his final season he might be passable, given the high potential.

Posted by dacj501 on 1/30/2011 11:42:00 PM (view original):
If can he shoot free throws set his 3 pt to -2, give him the ball with a 20+ distro and run uptempo once his IQ is B+ or so and he will score

I would do the exact opposite.  Set his distro really low and let him distribute.  His LP isn't good enough to jack up his distro.  In fact, I think that's a recipe for awfulness with his spd/lp/per/FT.

If he has High Distro, he's not making assists, he's shooting the ball instead, He can be a good D111 PG, just don't count on him to be a scorer. Put his Disto at like 2 or 4, and you should get more assist.

At BRandeis had a player quite a bit like him.  Perhaps marginally faster. . but not much.  Marginally better per, but not great.  And was into the upper nineties on pass/BH.  Never scored much, but had a 4.4 to 1.5 assist/TO ratio over all four years, in just over 22 minutes a game.  Was definitely important, at any rate.  Had one season where he went out for four games. . and a four game losing streak with a  massive spike in turnovers and dip in field goal percentage commenced.

Posted by pjbrankin on 1/30/2011 11:51:00 PM (view original):
can you explain that a little bit dac? what's the reasoning behind such a high distro and uptempo?

his projection is for pretty good ath and spd for  DIII. The -2 will mean he drives a lot, and gets fouled a lot. The uptempo means more possessions to generate fouls (means you get to score for free from the line, and his players get to go to the bench with foul trouble). If he is a 75% FT shooter or better he will score at least 15 ppg this way.

ETA: I don't have a team in  DIII anymore, so I am kind of extrapolating this from my experience in D II. He's not good enough to pull this off at D II, but may be for  DIII.

Posted by pjbrankin on 1/30/2011 8:42:00 PM (view original):
Would this be a successful DIII PG?

Athleticism 37 Average      Perimeter 22 Low
Speed 61 Low                      Ball Handling 66 High
Rebounding 1 Low               Passing 64 High
Defense 39 High                 Stamina 86 Average
Shot Blocking 1 Low            Durability 60 Low
Low-post 1 Average               FT Shooting High

Love the defense, BH, stamina and P, but concerned about the speed. Decent ath for a PG, but not great. Is he fast enough to take advantage of the elite BH and P?


Sort of a related question: what goes into having a guy average 3-4 assists per game? I've never had a PG average 3+ assists in a game. Is it just basically having great passing? I've had a PG with 90 speed and 70 P and he never got more than maybe ~2.5 assists/game. Does having high distro have anything to do with getting more assists? or only more shots?

I think the answer to your original question is Yes, he could be a good D3 PG. 

Posted by dacj501 on 1/31/2011 10:24:00 AM (view original):

Posted by pjbrankin on 1/30/2011 11:51:00 PM (view original):
can you explain that a little bit dac? what's the reasoning behind such a high distro and uptempo?

his projection is for pretty good ath and spd for  DIII. The -2 will mean he drives a lot, and gets fouled a lot. The uptempo means more possessions to generate fouls (means you get to score for free from the line, and his players get to go to the bench with foul trouble). If he is a 75% FT shooter or better he will score at least 15 ppg this way.

ETA: I don't have a team in  DIII anymore, so I am kind of extrapolating this from my experience in D II. He's not good enough to pull this off at D II, but may be for  DIII.

60-65 speed is not good for a D3 guard.  It's fine, and certainly usable, but not good.  The 50 ath is good, and with his bh, he could do some damage against lesser opponents, but his per/lp are terrible.  This guy should not be used as a scorer, in my opinion, especially against good defensive guards.

Posted by isack24 on 1/31/2011 10:44:00 AM (view original):

Posted by dacj501 on 1/31/2011 10:24:00 AM (view original):

Posted by pjbrankin on 1/30/2011 11:51:00 PM (view original):
can you explain that a little bit dac? what's the reasoning behind such a high distro and uptempo?

his projection is for pretty good ath and spd for  DIII. The -2 will mean he drives a lot, and gets fouled a lot. The uptempo means more possessions to generate fouls (means you get to score for free from the line, and his players get to go to the bench with foul trouble). If he is a 75% FT shooter or better he will score at least 15 ppg this way.

ETA: I don't have a team in  DIII anymore, so I am kind of extrapolating this from my experience in D II. He's not good enough to pull this off at D II, but may be for  DIII.

60-65 speed is not good for a D3 guard.  It's fine, and certainly usable, but not good.  The 50 ath is good, and with his bh, he could do some damage against lesser opponents, but his per/lp are terrible.  This guy should not be used as a scorer, in my opinion, especially against good defensive guards.

He's a bit light in both ath and spd to do this, against decent competition.