Posted by uglyskunk3 on 2/23/2011 5:50:00 PM (view original):

Posted by coach_billyg on 2/23/2011 5:48:00 PM (view original):
also, for the first time, you ran slowdown - creating a small sample size for that game. and that is out of a total of 4 games. i mean come on! with sample size like that, you need something A LOT more impressive than 43%/33% and forcing a grand total of 9 turnovers (the primary benefit of the press being turnovers), before you call it "shocking".

we all know its one game genius, i'm just pointing out how odd it was. i didn't say it was a slam dunk that its proof the press is godly again. but it is shocking that it worked. 

it worked? it worked in the sense that you lost by double digits, or it worked in the sense that a slow team got more than 10% of their points on the fast break - most likely a result of your incompetent press defense? your zone is like 98% of the result of that fg%. CS has stated the HCP is not even a factor in 80% of the situations. and in those 20%, it often results in a normal half court set.

or it worked in the sense that you pulled a whopping 4 steals that game?

Posted by coach_billyg on 2/23/2011 5:51:00 PM (view original):

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Posted by uglyskunk3 on 2/23/2011 2:47:00 PM (view original):
maybe so mduncan. it would've been nice to have beta tested these changes. still surprised no one has commented about the shocking results of the stanford game. i know its one game, but it shouldn't be swept under the rug like its no big deal. i ran a defense my team doesn't know and had my best defensive game.....thats alarming.

what was shocking about it? they only won by 11.

agree on the beta testing thing... but i've pretty much lost all hope on that front

read and do a little research before posting. i ran a defense that my team has no knowledge of and held the opposing team to the lowest field goal percentage of any other opponent this season. not shocking? get real.

you added a half court press and held the opponent, at home, to 43%/33%, and forced 9 turnovers. what a mockery of justice!! you get real

ok billy boy......

i am quite sure it is obvious to everybody else reading this how unsurprising your situation was... hence why nobody commented on the "shocking" nature of it. if you really cannot see this, you are not half - neigh, not a quarter, of the coach you make yourself out to be

oh please now i know your a loser. knocking my resume? get out of here. i have the resume. i took over a d+ prestige school in d2 in one of the toughest conferences and am trying to build them up, and right now i left la verne to go to a low level d1 school til i can move up to a cherry picking d1 school like you have. knocking my skills is pathetic.

i am not knocking your resume, you fool! where did i say that? i am clearly knocking your inability to break down this game.

say i am crazy for knocking your resume, then knock mine, which is objectively incredibly better than yours? you are a funny man indeed.

Posted by coach_billyg on 2/23/2011 5:54:00 PM (view original):

Posted by uglyskunk3 on 2/23/2011 5:50:00 PM (view original):

Posted by coach_billyg on 2/23/2011 5:48:00 PM (view original):
also, for the first time, you ran slowdown - creating a small sample size for that game. and that is out of a total of 4 games. i mean come on! with sample size like that, you need something A LOT more impressive than 43%/33% and forcing a grand total of 9 turnovers (the primary benefit of the press being turnovers), before you call it "shocking".

we all know its one game genius, i'm just pointing out how odd it was. i didn't say it was a slam dunk that its proof the press is godly again. but it is shocking that it worked. 

it worked? it worked in the sense that you lost by double digits, or it worked in the sense that a slow team got more than 10% of their points on the fast break - most likely a result of your incompetent press defense? your zone is like 98% of the result of that fg%. CS has stated the HCP is not even a factor in 80% of the situations. and in those 20%, it often results in a normal half court set.

or it worked in the sense that you pulled a whopping 4 steals that game?

worked better then the straight zone has. is that too hard to follow?

Posted by coach_billyg on 2/23/2011 5:56:00 PM (view original):
say i am crazy for knocking your resume, then knock mine, which is objectively incredibly better than yours? you are a funny man indeed.

i've knocked you plenty of times. you don't wow with your d1 championships at cherry picked schools. hey thats terrific, good for you. 

Posted by uglyskunk3 on 2/23/2011 5:58:00 PM (view original):

Posted by coach_billyg on 2/23/2011 5:56:00 PM (view original):
say i am crazy for knocking your resume, then knock mine, which is objectively incredibly better than yours? you are a funny man indeed.

i've knocked you plenty of times. you don't wow with your d1 championships at cherry picked schools. hey thats terrific, good for you. 

i honestly don't know how to respond to such a ridiculous claim.

Posted by coach_billyg on 2/23/2011 5:58:00 PM (view original):

Posted by uglyskunk3 on 2/23/2011 5:58:00 PM (view original):

Posted by coach_billyg on 2/23/2011 5:56:00 PM (view original):
say i am crazy for knocking your resume, then knock mine, which is objectively incredibly better than yours? you are a funny man indeed.

i've knocked you plenty of times. you don't wow with your d1 championships at cherry picked schools. hey thats terrific, good for you. 

i honestly don't know how to respond to such a ridiculous claim.

its a fact deal with it.

Posted by uglyskunk3 on 2/23/2011 5:57:00 PM (view original):

Posted by coach_billyg on 2/23/2011 5:54:00 PM (view original):

Posted by uglyskunk3 on 2/23/2011 5:50:00 PM (view original):

Posted by coach_billyg on 2/23/2011 5:48:00 PM (view original):
also, for the first time, you ran slowdown - creating a small sample size for that game. and that is out of a total of 4 games. i mean come on! with sample size like that, you need something A LOT more impressive than 43%/33% and forcing a grand total of 9 turnovers (the primary benefit of the press being turnovers), before you call it "shocking".

we all know its one game genius, i'm just pointing out how odd it was. i didn't say it was a slam dunk that its proof the press is godly again. but it is shocking that it worked. 

it worked? it worked in the sense that you lost by double digits, or it worked in the sense that a slow team got more than 10% of their points on the fast break - most likely a result of your incompetent press defense? your zone is like 98% of the result of that fg%. CS has stated the HCP is not even a factor in 80% of the situations. and in those 20%, it often results in a normal half court set.

or it worked in the sense that you pulled a whopping 4 steals that game?

worked better then the straight zone has. is that too hard to follow?

it worked better HOW. your inability to break down that change to the affected components is what i am pointing to here. it did NOT work well for you. on this sample size, that fg% is due to luck - not the hcp. that is quite obvious. the hcp didn't do you any favors in this game, see steals and fast break points. you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.

Posted by uglyskunk3 on 2/23/2011 5:59:00 PM (view original):

Posted by coach_billyg on 2/23/2011 5:58:00 PM (view original):

Posted by uglyskunk3 on 2/23/2011 5:58:00 PM (view original):

Posted by coach_billyg on 2/23/2011 5:56:00 PM (view original):
say i am crazy for knocking your resume, then knock mine, which is objectively incredibly better than yours? you are a funny man indeed.

i've knocked you plenty of times. you don't wow with your d1 championships at cherry picked schools. hey thats terrific, good for you. 

i honestly don't know how to respond to such a ridiculous claim.

its a fact deal with it.

its a fact that i took over a colorado team who last made the NT 5 seasons ago, and built them into a national powerhouse with 2 titles in 4 seasons.

its a fact that i took over a great texas a&m team, won with it, then everybody left, then I won twice in a row after 1 rebuilding season.

its a fact that i took over the most ridiculously depressed situation at kentucky and after a long down period won one.

which of those are cherry picked? a&m, you can call that 1st title cherry picked if you like. the other 5 i just don't see even the slightest bit of cherry picking

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Posted by uglyskunk3 on 2/23/2011 5:50:00 PM (view original):

Posted by coach_billyg on 2/23/2011 5:48:00 PM (view original):
also, for the first time, you ran slowdown - creating a small sample size for that game. and that is out of a total of 4 games. i mean come on! with sample size like that, you need something A LOT more impressive than 43%/33% and forcing a grand total of 9 turnovers (the primary benefit of the press being turnovers), before you call it "shocking".

we all know its one game genius, i'm just pointing out how odd it was. i didn't say it was a slam dunk that its proof the press is godly again. but it is shocking that it worked. 

it worked? it worked in the sense that you lost by double digits, or it worked in the sense that a slow team got more than 10% of their points on the fast break - most likely a result of your incompetent press defense? your zone is like 98% of the result of that fg%. CS has stated the HCP is not even a factor in 80% of the situations. and in those 20%, it often results in a normal half court set.

or it worked in the sense that you pulled a whopping 4 steals that game?

worked better then the straight zone has. is that too hard to follow?

it worked better HOW. your inability to break down that change to the affected components is what i am pointing to here. it did NOT work well for you. on this sample size, that fg% is due to luck - not the hcp. that is quite obvious. the hcp didn't do you any favors in this game, see steals and fast break points. you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.

i know how the combo works billy boy, the halfcourt press shouldn't have an effect but i installed and it did. if you want to believe that my zone miraculous began to work with out the press needing to be added then you can believe that. like i said its one game and it was odd that there was a note worthy difference. you not picking up on the oddity of that is silly. 

you not realizing how i could win over gtown by five or more points makes me wonder how bad of a coach you really are.

Yikes

Posted by uglyskunk3 on 2/23/2011 5:42:00 PM (view original):

Posted by stinenavy on 2/23/2011 5:31:00 PM (view original):
So it needs to be beta tested and tweaked until uglyskunk wins every game? This thread is four pages of whining over not winning, without any substantial reasoning.

Running 3-2 zone/press got you a whopping 9 turnovers as stated previously. If you would have run just press you would, maybe, have a case on something. You faced a team and they had a bad shooting night vs your zone. There's nothing "alarming" about this. You're not winning every game. Get over it.

whining over not winning? what a jack wagon of a post this is. hey einstein if you read the previous posts which you didn't, you'd realize that i played a defense, fullcourt press/zone, not a straight zone and got a better result then all previous games. i stated multiple times that i was gonna experiment with the press for a game and see what happens. the press is not a defense that my team has any practice at yet i had better results with it then the defense my team actually knows.......that is alarming. next time read before posting nonsense.

Yes, whining. Your replies involve even more whining.

Pressing for for just halfcourt isn't going to have huge effects on your opponents FG%. You realize this right?

If they committed a huge amount of turnovers you might have a case on something, that didn't happen.

But if you think you discovered the recipe for success, please run a straight press for the remainder of your season.

"i know how the combo works billy boy, the halfcourt press shouldn't have an effect but i installed and it did. if you want to believe that my zone miraculous began to work with out the press needing to be added then you can believe that. like i said its one game and it was odd that there was a note worthy difference. you not picking up on the oddity of that is silly. 

you not realizing how i could win over gtown by five or more points makes me wonder how bad of a coach you really are."

ok, then keep playing the HCP with bad iq, you genius you. i made my point clearly, re: steals, fastbreak points, and how the hcp has little effect on fg% - which was exposed to a massive luck factor with slowdown. i think its pretty unambiguous who knows what they are talking about here, so, with that, i bid you farewell, until next time :)