the 2-3 update is TRASH! Topic

Posted by uglyskunk3 on 2/24/2011 1:54:00 AM (view original):
if i had to guess why i'm seeing issues i would guess it is a blend of the fcp coming back to life with the fatigue adjustment, and as established in this thread a lack of rebounds from the reb adjustment. where in the past engine i could depend on the superior ath/spd totals of a big man overcoming lower reb ratings, i no longer can.

but with those questions answered i'm still left wondering how distros are off. i have many times between the d2 and d1 team experienced a new issue where large distro settings are not matching shooting attempts. maybe this could be explained with the assist adjustment that was added in the new update, but i'm not sure of that yet.

i also mentioned that double teams aren't working quite right. that is based on the fact that a season ago at d2 with lower iq players i was able to dominate an inferior ath/spd player. that is not occurring since the newest update.  to me that is an issue. 


on a serious note, you know assists are 100% cosmetic right? literally that change should have no impact on anything real, ever. could affect awards and that crap, but not the outcome of any game, nor the ranking, seeding, etc of any team.

also, spd does not impact rebounding.
2/24/2011 3:06 AM
skunk -
"you must be joking or high. first off overall rating is a poor way to conclude how good a team is. one of many reasons? walk ons!"

i can assure you, its both. it was an easy shot :) that really is not a hard schedule, though. HCA is massive in d1 - playing 4 at home, against all but the staunchest of opponents, is not a hard schedule.
2/24/2011 3:08 AM
Posted by uglyskunk3 on 2/24/2011 1:27:00 AM (view original):
Posted by turtis21 on 2/24/2011 1:05:00 AM (view original):
U.S. it seems like you asked for peoples opinions on the new engine at the very beggining of this thread and then whenever someone gave one to you, you shot it down. Your kind of a dick.

That being said you could be the most entertaining user on these forums.

Well done sir.
to be fair i made my comments and i had the dumbest responses. if any other coach with a resume like mine says hey somethin isn't quite right since the new updates, most wouldn't have a gang of lunatics with no reading comprehension skills unleash a blitzkrieg of comments like, "oh he is whining" ..."oh he must be upset cause he lost"...........the thread was meant as a place to vent, and listen to other coaches opinions on the engine, but instead it became an indictment on my character.  
like it or not the new update is setup in a way that my old style of play is so far not effective.  i spent most of my d2 season trying to work around those issues, and like i said a gabillion times here that this past d1 game was the kicker. i'll tell you witnout a doubt in the old system i would've easily beat that gtown team and there isn't anyone who could tell me other wise.

btw i'm glad your entertained.
Gang of lunatics???? Billyg, Kmason, Girt, Oldresorter. . . I think the gang of lunatics looks like more a listing of elite coaches. . .
 
2/24/2011 7:22 AM
Posted by uglyskunk3 on 2/23/2011 10:17:00 PM (view original):
Posted by colonels19 on 2/23/2011 10:13:00 PM (view original):

Alright ugly...I want my cape back man...geez you give some people an inch..........lol

Guy makes me look sane/reasonable lol

your welcome
my welcome what?
2/24/2011 9:03 AM
is this a parody?
2/24/2011 10:00 AM
Posted by uglyskunk3 on 2/23/2011 8:02:00 PM (view original):
i appreciate that you answered my question. i disagree that it wouldn't prove anything. i'm sure two teams deemed equal by both coaches or by the community would prove a little something. i don't think it would need 10-15 seasons to come to a conclusion either way.

How is just one ot two games going to prove anything?  Don't you need to see over multiple games?

2/24/2011 10:08 AM
Why'd you drop the halfcourt press? I could have swore you were advocating that doing a halfcourt press was the reason for the other team shooting a low percentage.
2/24/2011 10:41 AM
Posted by colonels19 on 2/24/2011 9:03:00 AM (view original):
Posted by uglyskunk3 on 2/23/2011 10:17:00 PM (view original):
Posted by colonels19 on 2/23/2011 10:13:00 PM (view original):

Alright ugly...I want my cape back man...geez you give some people an inch..........lol

Guy makes me look sane/reasonable lol

your welcome
my welcome what?
lol i was thinking the same thing!
2/24/2011 12:12 PM
Posted by kmasonbx1 on 2/23/2011 7:12:00 PM (view original):
Posted by hitman1979 on 2/23/2011 7:10:00 PM (view original):
Lots of childish name calling and personal attacks in this thread, I think this is what drives a lot of people away from the game.
People need to man up than. You can always leave it up to Skunk to incite people, eventhough he 100% does it for kicks, and you guys fall for it everytime.
usually by "inciting" people you make THEM look like an idiot. skunk has only made HIMSELF look like an idiot.
2/24/2011 12:14 PM
I've been reading this thread, mostly for amusement but also because I try to pick up bread crumbs of knowledge from threads even if they're mostly ******* contests.  I was left wondering if it was true that the 2-3 Update has destroyed the value of gameplanning and that underdogs couldn't win any more.

I offer this as a 1-off sample size for discussion - I'm not claiming it proves a single thing, other than maybe I got lucky.  But last night, my Abilene Christian (Smith) team (RPI 142, SOS 258 thanks to a rich diet of cupcakes) upset #14 ranked E. Central.

ACU-ECU Box Score

Frankly, I was stunned.  I have a large junior class of mediocre defenders and athletes and their first 2 seasons are among the worst imaginable: a composite 6-48 W/L record.  This season didn't look to be much of an improvement, either, since I haven't had time to refocus my recruiting in the right direction yet.

Looking over the game log, I have to believe that a big part of the reason I won was gameplanning.  I almost always play slowdown (re: poor athletes) and I went +1 last night to limit ECU's guards.  ECU, meanwhile, went -1 for some reason - maybe he thought he could ignore my guards and try for more rebounding?  Certainly my front line isn't very intimidating.  He got his rebounding:  +17 on the boards, but my guards won the game, topped off by my SF hitting the tying shot with 0:23 to go, then my big C hitting the winning FTs at the end of regulation.

It'll probably be the only upset I pull this season, and I have no hopes of a post season bid (which was why I padded my non-con).  But I wonder if there was some effect of the 2-3 update here, or if this was just one of those lucky breaks we all hope to get once in a while?
 

2/24/2011 1:58 PM (edited)
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Well that was a long read.
2/27/2011 3:56 AM
Posted by uglyskunk3 on 2/23/2011 3:06:00 AM (view original):
gameplanning died with this update.........nothing works anymore, player mismatches forget that, def settings forget that, double teams forget that..........what the hell is going on?

.....somehow distros is effected as well, this has to be the tenth time i've had someone set at 21 to 24 distro shoot around five times. what the hell is going on?
Back to the original post ..

I have to agree with skunk on shot distribution. It wasnt supposed to be touched but Ive had several games with both teams since then where actual shot distribution was NO WHERE CLOSE to what I had in the practice plan.
3/3/2011 6:33 AM
Posted by mullycj on 3/3/2011 6:33:00 AM (view original):
Posted by uglyskunk3 on 2/23/2011 3:06:00 AM (view original):
gameplanning died with this update.........nothing works anymore, player mismatches forget that, def settings forget that, double teams forget that..........what the hell is going on?

.....somehow distros is effected as well, this has to be the tenth time i've had someone set at 21 to 24 distro shoot around five times. what the hell is going on?
Back to the original post ..

I have to agree with skunk on shot distribution. It wasnt supposed to be touched but Ive had several games with both teams since then where actual shot distribution was NO WHERE CLOSE to what I had in the practice plan.
I've got shocking news for you mully: That happened frequently before the update. I haven't seen anything to indicate the 2/3 update had anything to do with that.
3/3/2011 7:58 AM
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