Posted by jbrewman1 on 3/9/2011 9:18:00 PM (view original):
Can you take over a nothing team and make them relevant??? that will be your challenge... I could do what you have done with the takeovers... hell anyone could .. 

You took over a B+ team and it's still B+. If it's so easy, why is a team that has been coached by you still a B+ after 7 seasons. If anyone can take over a B- team and make it A+, then why isn't every human team in D3 A+?

this thread should be closed.

uh

Posted by jbrewman1 on 3/9/2011 12:45:00 PM (view original):
If you send a schollie offer and your turned down then you know for sure. 

or if you send 1 message and it isn't a back up option message you know for sure.

Can this be stickied?  I read a couple pages and I can't stop laughing. This is the best advice on what NOT to do as a new coach.

I didn't read all 15 pages of this forum but I could see the jbrewman strategy possibly making sense.

It took me a while but I think I can understand  if you have 1 recruit or just a few recruits you really like that you want to pull down.  If they turn you down you get your $100 back.  If they consider you and you go after them hard then it makes sense because you have already offered them the scholarship.  It does seem riskier though because if a higher division team goes after them you are out more $$ and have less backup options to look at.

If you want to check out a lot of players to see if they'll consider you then I think the $10 phone call is the way to go.

If they turn you down you get your $100 back.

No, you don't. From the FAQ:

Posted by dacj501 on 3/10/2011 3:32:00 AM (view original):

If they turn you down you get your $100 back.

No, you don't. From the FAQ:

Q: If I offer a recruit a scholarship, does it stay on the table or do I need to reoffer it if he rejects?

A: Scholarships remain 'on the table' until one of the following happens: the recruit accepts your offer, the recruit accepts someone else's offer, the scholarship offer is withdrawn by you or the recruit rejects your offer. Your $100 scholarship offer cost is not returned to you under any circumstance - even if you withdraw it.


Using jbrewman's method gains nothing, and can waste hundreds.

reading this forum is kinda like Jbrewman's strategy in that respect.

I gotta say, I am a brand new caoch, no even a season under my belt, and there i not one little thing that has confused me in the phone call emails, and I succesfully pulled down a player on my baruch team this year, using advice on the forums about the emails.

But I don't think Jbrewman is a troll, he means well, he believes what he is saying, he's just wrong, and you say how could you not get this right after 50 seasons, but if you did this for 50 seasons you would be convinced of its effectiveness too.

And I also am doubting that the forums where as good 50 seasons ago as they are now.

Posted by turtis21 on 3/10/2011 4:21:00 AM (view original):

Posted by dacj501 on 3/10/2011 3:32:00 AM (view original):

If they turn you down you get your $100 back.

No, you don't. From the FAQ:

Q: If I offer a recruit a scholarship, does it stay on the table or do I need to reoffer it if he rejects?

A: Scholarships remain 'on the table' until one of the following happens: the recruit accepts your offer, the recruit accepts someone else's offer, the scholarship offer is withdrawn by you or the recruit rejects your offer. Your $100 scholarship offer cost is not returned to you under any circumstance - even if you withdraw it.


Using jbrewman's method gains nothing, and can waste hundreds.

reading this forum is kinda like Jbrewman's strategy in that respect.

I gotta say, I am a brand new caoch, no even a season under my belt, and there i not one little thing that has confused me in the phone call emails, and I succesfully pulled down a player on my baruch team this year, using advice on the forums about the emails.

But I don't think Jbrewman is a troll, he means well, he believes what he is saying, he's just wrong, and you say how could you not get this right after 50 seasons, but if you did this for 50 seasons you would be convinced of its effectiveness too.

And I also am doubting that the forums where as good 50 seasons ago as they are now.

For the record, while others may have, I have never once accused jbrewman of intentionally misleading anyone, and I never called out any reference to 50 seasons.
I am not sure why you quoted my post given the nature of yours, which has little to nothing to do with mine.

ETA: I did state in good-natured fun something about it being a troll thread. I hadn't fully realized the situation at the time, but felt to remove the post after would be disingenuous.

jbrewman,
If I may,
I have (politely) challenged your way of doing things. We simply disagree. In the interest of transparency and perhaps to educate me, would you please post the recruiting summary efforts from your latest bunch of pull-downs? This should still be available for any players recruited in the current season from the recruiting history tab on the player's profile page. I would like to see how you do things to try to understand where we do not see eye to eye.
Thank you,
dac

Posted by turtis21 on 3/10/2011 4:21:00 AM (view original):

Posted by dacj501 on 3/10/2011 3:32:00 AM (view original):

If they turn you down you get your $100 back.

No, you don't. From the FAQ:

Q: If I offer a recruit a scholarship, does it stay on the table or do I need to reoffer it if he rejects?

A: Scholarships remain 'on the table' until one of the following happens: the recruit accepts your offer, the recruit accepts someone else's offer, the scholarship offer is withdrawn by you or the recruit rejects your offer. Your $100 scholarship offer cost is not returned to you under any circumstance - even if you withdraw it.


Using jbrewman's method gains nothing, and can waste hundreds.

reading this forum is kinda like Jbrewman's strategy in that respect.

I gotta say, I am a brand new caoch, no even a season under my belt, and there i not one little thing that has confused me in the phone call emails, and I succesfully pulled down a player on my baruch team this year, using advice on the forums about the emails.

But I don't think Jbrewman is a troll, he means well, he believes what he is saying, he's just wrong, and you say how could you not get this right after 50 seasons, but if you did this for 50 seasons you would be convinced of its effectiveness too.

And I also am doubting that the forums where as good 50 seasons ago as they are now.

The forums were better a long time ago.  More coaches, tons more activity, less trolling (or at least more creative trolling).

Forums have taken a serious hit as more coaches leave the game.

Posted by dacj501 on 3/10/2011 3:32:00 AM (view original):

If they turn you down you get your $100 back.

No, you don't. From the FAQ:

Q: If I offer a recruit a scholarship, does it stay on the table or do I need to reoffer it if he rejects?

A: Scholarships remain 'on the table' until one of the following happens: the recruit accepts your offer, the recruit accepts someone else's offer, the scholarship offer is withdrawn by you or the recruit rejects your offer. Your $100 scholarship offer cost is not returned to you under any circumstance - even if you withdraw it.


Using jbrewman's method gains nothing, and can waste hundreds.

That shows what I know.  I take that back.

Posted by turtis21 on 3/10/2011 4:21:00 AM (view original):

Posted by dacj501 on 3/10/2011 3:32:00 AM (view original):

If they turn you down you get your $100 back.

No, you don't. From the FAQ:

Q: If I offer a recruit a scholarship, does it stay on the table or do I need to reoffer it if he rejects?

A: Scholarships remain 'on the table' until one of the following happens: the recruit accepts your offer, the recruit accepts someone else's offer, the scholarship offer is withdrawn by you or the recruit rejects your offer. Your $100 scholarship offer cost is not returned to you under any circumstance - even if you withdraw it.


Using jbrewman's method gains nothing, and can waste hundreds.

reading this forum is kinda like Jbrewman's strategy in that respect.

I gotta say, I am a brand new caoch, no even a season under my belt, and there i not one little thing that has confused me in the phone call emails, and I succesfully pulled down a player on my baruch team this year, using advice on the forums about the emails.

But I don't think Jbrewman is a troll, he means well, he believes what he is saying, he's just wrong, and you say how could you not get this right after 50 seasons, but if you did this for 50 seasons you would be convinced of its effectiveness too.

And I also am doubting that the forums where as good 50 seasons ago as they are now.

seriously... jbrewman's strategy makes not even one little bit of sense. not in any way is it beneficial. and based on the ridiculousness of some of his responses (thanking people who clearly disagreed, etc), i refuse to believe he is just in good faith defending something he believes. there is not one advantage, i realize things are obvious to me that are not obvious to everyone in this game, but this is just so god damn simple, nobody else is failing to comprehend, so i just don't buy it. and his insistence that somehow his strategy makes more sense for a coach who has never coached a game just blows me away because that is a ridiculous premise and an equally ridiculous conclusion.

in half his posts he even contradicts himself, agreeing with the other viewpoint... i just don't get it...

Dac, I was more responding to the whole forum in general, sorry for the confusion.

and Billyg, have you really never met someone in real life who acted like that? completely believeing something he has brainwashed himself into?