Not having truly run a press team before for any length of time...what is the proper order of these three ratings for Press?

ATH, DEF, Speed?

And for the press is it best to have a Speed based SF, or an ATH based sf?  Any press Guru's around?

 

You need all three. Athleticism combined with defense will limit fouls while speed/ath help cause the turnovers. You don't need blazing fast guards but it helps if your bigs have 30-40 speed instead of 5-10. 

Well, I figure all three are beneficial, but if push comes to shove, would speed or ATH be more important.  Say a guard with 70 speed and sicty ath or one with 6o speed and 70 ath?  And does Press effect rebounding in either a positive or negative way, like zone is said to negatively impact rebounding?
 

 

I would favor the Spd over Ath in a press SF -- but don't completely punt whichever one you don't favor. Having above-average speed does nothing for you if you have an Ath of 10 or something, and the same runs true the other way as well.

My reason for favoring speed over Ath is that, in my observation, the speed will produce turnovers as wsut said. It will also help compensate some for Ath in the rebounding department. 

I understood that rebounding was not, in fact, effected by speed but only by reb and ATH?  THought I saw that from a developer's chat or something.

Posted by a_in_the_b on 4/15/2011 7:31:00 PM (view original):

Well, I figure all three are beneficial, but if push comes to shove, would speed or ATH be more important.  Say a guard with 70 speed and sicty ath or one with 6o speed and 70 ath?  And does Press effect rebounding in either a positive or negative way, like zone is said to negatively impact rebounding?
 

 

I'd take the athleticism guy first unless I was running the flex offense. 

Nobody really knows about what the press even is after it's beaten, but I don't think it has a big factor on rebounding like zone does. Maybe slightly hurts you, but it's not much in my estimation.

I'm no expert, but here goes (also I run flex o which I think works well with a press): G Ath 60, Spd 70; P Ath 50, Spd 40; 3 spot a hybrid Ath 50, Spd 60. For P I have started looking for LP-type SF, with some PER to be offensively viable in the flex.

Press, I would rate the three key categories as ath, spd, then def. But this doesn't mean I would trade 70ath/40spd/40def for 70 ath/70spd/10 def. Personally, I would avoid the extremely ratings in any of these categories. 

I ran a Press at D111 Nazareth for 7 season quite succesfully and I would add Stamina to that mix in this order. ATH, SP, ST, DEF.

I agree with court about stamina being important.  Having run a DIII press team for nearly 20 straight seasons back in Knight, I always valued the ratings in this order: SPD, ATH, ST, DEF.  But it came down to position.  At PG/SG I value SPD much higher than any other rating.  At SF I tend to desire a balance at ATH/SPD.  At PF/C I tend to prefer better ATH, but nice SPD is always a bonus.  My only issue is that I have not played the press at any level since the most recent engine change, so my advice might be out-of-date.

As soon as I start winning with this style, I'll let you know what I've decided. :)  It feels to me like a high-octane race engine - extremely powerful as long as you have the right ingredients, but can easily self destruct if you don't.

Agreed on the stamina comments - I find that the AI does a bunch more subbing in most games (as opposed to my Man def team)  so depth and stamina factor in.

By the way, I did have a SF at Frostburg State in Smith (my former DIII team before I hopped to DII and then DI), who had 98 ATH and under 40 SPD and only average LP/PER and mediocre DEF and he was still an incredible scorer and defender. 

I think the order is ATH, DE, ST, SPD, but then with a shift to speed as ratings go up. For Gs and SFs, I want 50 ATH and 50 DE. Once I get those levels, I want all the SPD and ST I can get. If you play 12 players, ST would be less important than SPD. Just looking at ATH, DE, and SPD, if I had 140 points in those, I would want 50 ATH, 50 DE, and 40 SPD. If I had 180 points, I would want 50 ATH, 50 DE, and 80 SPD. At least since the February engine tweak, I have had bad issues with foul trouble with 35 ATH, 45 DE, and 85 SPD type guards.

The team already had a 75 ath, 37 spd, 75 def guy and picked up an 80/40/80  Team is going to be bad this year anyway so I thought I would experiment, but was wondering if 80 ath, 40 speed, 80 def could play the defensive part of the press adequately at d3.

Posted by a_in_the_b on 4/16/2011 3:16:00 PM (view original):
The team already had a 75 ath, 37 spd, 75 def guy and picked up an 80/40/80  Team is going to be bad this year anyway so I thought I would experiment, but was wondering if 80 ath, 40 speed, 80 def could play the defensive part of the press adequately at d3.

He's a gonna be a stud in the press.