just saying, it drives me crazy that an eval does not always get info on what schemes the kid knows - for one kid this cycle, as happens from time to time, I called his coach twice, sent my assistant for a scouting trip and all I learned was his offense - no info on defense - if my assistant can watch a game and not report on that I can get a new assistant....

maybe if you hired your assistant based on her basketball knowledge, and not her bikini shots, you'd receive better reports?????

Not to hijack the thread, but does anyone know if there is a rhyme/reason to how high school offenses and defenses are allocated?  Is it an even distribution across the different types?  Or is it intended to mirror the distribution of offenses/defenses used within that world?  Or something else?

I think it's completely random.

I never look at the offense/defense unless I'm recruiting a transfer/JUCO.  My freshmen don't play enough to make a difference.  But, I agree with metsmax, it'd be nice to get more complete information from the scouting trips

I think it's ridiculous that if you make a (10) coach's call, you wouln't learn anymore information than if you made just one call.

in general, a school will run the same off/def in all worlds (if it is SIM coached)

Posted by toysboys on 5/25/2011 11:50:00 AM (view original):
I think it's ridiculous that if you make a (10) coach's call, you wouln't learn anymore information than if you made just one call.

i wouldnt say you get no more info from 10 coach calls than from 1

if I really want to know the Off/Def I usually send out about 5 separate emails to the coach.  Usually one of those 5 responses will tell something about his knowledge of both an O and D.

Posted by coach_billyg on 5/25/2011 1:05:00 PM (view original):

Posted by toysboys on 5/25/2011 11:50:00 AM (view original):
I think it's ridiculous that if you make a (10) coach's call, you wouln't learn anymore information than if you made just one call.

i wouldnt say you get no more info from 10 coach calls than from 1

If you make 10 separate calls yes.  If you make a singular call and then hit the dropdown menu for (10), then you wouldn't.

Posted by toysboys on 5/25/2011 4:25:00 PM (view original):

Posted by coach_billyg on 5/25/2011 1:05:00 PM (view original):

Posted by toysboys on 5/25/2011 11:50:00 AM (view original):
I think it's ridiculous that if you make a (10) coach's call, you wouln't learn anymore information than if you made just one call.

i wouldnt say you get no more info from 10 coach calls than from 1

If you make 10 separate calls yes.  If you make a singular call and then hit the dropdown menu for (10), then you wouldn't.

I think it's ridiculous that you make ten coach calls

its not like knowing this is a key, but it is silly the way it works - for me it can be a tiebreaker between two recruits - or it can help me get comfortable promising minutes.  I also think it is extra helpful for nonqualifiers, who will want to play SOPH minutes right away in their second season....after no practices etc

I seem to remember before I took a hiatus from HD (couple of years ago) that someone used to run an Excel spreadsheet on all of the HS sets.  I think that was before the combo's were introduced though.  It was fairly helpful if you were building a team from scratch or had a lot of incoming players.  If you only have one or two slots to fill, it wasn't necessarily helpful, because like al said those players probably aren't going to play a lot that first season.  Might be nice to start back though.

But I agree with the main point.  It'd be nice to get better information on calls and evals.  I'm tired of evaluating a big man and constantly getting ball handling and perimeter info.

This has been a pet peeve of mine forever: in what universe can high school O/D be an absolute, impenetrable secret that cannot be discerned without a series of phone calls that can only occur once the official recruiting period has started?  "Boy, I wonder what offense East Brunswick High in New Jersey is running.  Oh, if only there was a way to find out!"  

Maybe the fact that they're running it in front of a crowd of people 2-3 nights per week for 4 months?  Oh, if only there was a way to untangle such a mystery!

Posted by xlr8n on 5/25/2011 6:21:00 PM (view original):
I seem to remember before I took a hiatus from HD (couple of years ago) that someone used to run an Excel spreadsheet on all of the HS sets.  I think that was before the combo's were introduced though.  It was fairly helpful if you were building a team from scratch or had a lot of incoming players.  If you only have one or two slots to fill, it wasn't necessarily helpful, because like al said those players probably aren't going to play a lot that first season.  Might be nice to start back though.

But I agree with the main point.  It'd be nice to get better information on calls and evals.  I'm tired of evaluating a big man and constantly getting ball handling and perimeter info.

I definitely think you should be able to choose what your assistant scouts when doing evals. It's ridiculous at D3 doing 5 evals and still not knowing everything. It's like "Hey coach, I know I told you 3 times already that this guy is fast, but I'm going to tell you again. I don't know about his ball handling." It's just something that needs to be fixed. And if they think that'll make it to easy, lower it to 3 areas instead of 4 to evaluate.

Even 2 would be better than now