Any major advantages of M2M over press besides stamina/fatigue? Maybe doubleteaming? But I know a lot of good coaches rarely if ever doubleteam

Easier to recruit for imo

well that's probably true, but in general I target ath+def first anyway, and both of those are extremely important for any defense. So I guess you don't need to emphasize stamina as much, but that's what I meant in my first post. 

and i suppose M2M allows you to tinker with your lineup more to get different matchups?

I feel that m2m is slightly stronger in opp. FG% and rebounding than the other two defenses.

when narcotico speaks, I listen. thanks narc

I have two teams, one m2m and one press.  I just recruited a 46 stamina player on my m2m team and was amazed that he was able to play 20 minutes as a starter set at "fairly fresh."  That guy probably couldn't play 10 minutes in a press defense. 

You can carry two walk-ons in m2m without even feeling it, but carrying two walk-ons in a press D will likely spike your season.

^good point drsnell. the reason for the thread is that I have a DI team that I had run a press D all of last season(my first season there), but I realized that my team stamina will be really poor this year and maybe a switch to Man will be for the best. I don't have much experience with Man.

Yes, of course, I see that now, pjbrankin. 

Looking at your T A&M CC team, I see that a couple of your recruits aren't exactly marathoners.  If they have high potential in stamina they should be okay though.  The key is that you got 12 players.  Before the 2/3 update, I would have said you can't run press with that crew, but I think you can now.  Just not uptempo.

Now if those guys in the 50 range aren't going to go up much, then maybe you've got a problem.

Maybe you should be looking into what people think about m2m vs. zone, then.  (I haven't played zone in the new engine, so I don't have a good feel for it.)

the ones with really low starting stamina all have high potential, fortunately. I've played quite a bit of zone, but graduated to press/M2M when I became more familiar with the game.

Posted by billscnb on 6/9/2011 11:49:00 PM (view original):
Easier to recruit for imo

You think it's easier to recruit for man-to-man?

I think that's totally opposite, at least at the lower levels.  Not only do you have to find guys with ath/spd who can keep up with press teams' ath/spd, but those guys also must have def.  WIth press, you need ath/spd/sta.  WIth man, you need ath/spd/def.  I think the first combo is easier to find.

Posted by isack24 on 6/10/2011 11:10:00 AM (view original):

Posted by billscnb on 6/9/2011 11:49:00 PM (view original):
Easier to recruit for imo

You think it's easier to recruit for man-to-man?

I think that's totally opposite, at least at the lower levels.  Not only do you have to find guys with ath/spd who can keep up with press teams' ath/spd, but those guys also must have def.  WIth press, you need ath/spd/sta.  WIth man, you need ath/spd/def.  I think the first combo is easier to find.

Bill is that legit. Thats why.

But honestly, it gives you more flexibility to move guys around and create matchup problems.  Double-teaming is important in certain situations but not used that much I think.

Posted by isack24 on 6/10/2011 11:10:00 AM (view original):

Posted by billscnb on 6/9/2011 11:49:00 PM (view original):
Easier to recruit for imo

You think it's easier to recruit for man-to-man?

I think that's totally opposite, at least at the lower levels.  Not only do you have to find guys with ath/spd who can keep up with press teams' ath/spd, but those guys also must have def.  WIth press, you need ath/spd/sta.  WIth man, you need ath/spd/def.  I think the first combo is easier to find.

With the new update, finding ath/spd/def guards are easy. There is a post by someone earlier, about how all the athletic players also have high def, and after looking at the recruiting pool in all of my worlds, I have not found a single guy with great ath but poor def. Now, finding ath/spd guys with good stamina, that's a diff story.  

And what about bigs, it's nearly impossible to find a big with great ath/spd and can also rebound. With m2m, you can go with lower ath/spd and aim for the 90+ rebounders, which is a little easier to find. 

tianyi, does that mean I should take guys with (just using random numbers) 65ath/90reb instead of 75ath/80 reb? assuming they're roughly equal otherwise?

I've always taken the slightly higher ath rating and sacrificed a little bit of rebounding.

Posted by pjbrankin on 6/10/2011 7:24:00 PM (view original):
tianyi, does that mean I should take guys with (just using random numbers) 65ath/90reb instead of 75ath/80 reb? assuming they're roughly equal otherwise?

I've always taken the slightly higher ath rating and sacrificed a little bit of rebounding.

I would say they are roughly equal. M2M, you need to have at least one dominant rebounder, and preferably 2.