on 5/27 at 2:52AM, I received an email saying....

I've been spending extra time working with David Mosley on rebounding and unless you have any other ideas, that's all I can get from him.

Clifford Sims
Head Assistant Coach
E. Stroudsburg U. (PA)



Seeing as Mosley was at 98 REB, I shrugged my shoulders and said "oh well." However, since there really wasn't too many places for me to put those minutes, I left 10 minutes in rebounding on the practice plan.

This evening, he improved to 99 REB.

The "maxed out" email + an extremely high rating + a lower practice allotment..... needless to say, I'm surprised to see him improve. I was under the impression that the "maxed out" email literally meant he was done. I went back and read old threads that said take the minutes down to 5 or even less - that the rating wouldn't go higher, nor lower, no matter what you did.

Thoughts? Comments? 

I'm surprised that in those old threads you didn't come upon someone piping in stating that since the improvement is incremental sometimes another point or so of improvement is possible (due to a partial increase and a rounding difference) but that most of the time you won't see a change to the rating regardless of minutes of practice, including going down to 0. I'd be interested to hear if he reaches 100...

That actually is a bit disconcerting.  I'd always taken "that's all I can get from him" to mean the player is at his hard cap.  At that point, rounding will no longer be an issue unless the engine decided to change the way it rounds for some reason.  If there is no improvement the rating certainly shouldn't go up.  That said, it could, as dac suggested, have been the result of a very incremental improvement, so it doesn't necessarily mean that it's worth leaving minutes in categories in which maxed-out e-mails have been sent.  But still, seems like something I would never have anticipated happening.

I think it must mean that the message really signals that he is within some very tiny range of his hard cap. Lets imagine that it means that he is within 0.2 of the hard cap? If so, maybe this guy was at 98.4 and the hard cap for him is 98.6 and he happened to move up to 98.5 as a result of minutes played with the effect of changing the visible rating to 99 ???

I imagine that all ratings are really decimals to some larger number of decimal places.......

Posted by dahsdebater on 6/12/2011 4:04:00 AM (view original):
That actually is a bit disconcerting.  I'd always taken "that's all I can get from him" to mean the player is at his hard cap.  At that point, rounding will no longer be an issue unless the engine decided to change the way it rounds for some reason.  If there is no improvement the rating certainly shouldn't go up.  That said, it could, as dac suggested, have been the result of a very incremental improvement, so it doesn't necessarily mean that it's worth leaving minutes in categories in which maxed-out e-mails have been sent.  But still, seems like something I would never have anticipated happening.

This has always been the case, and it's been talking about here. You can still get a small improvement -- whether that's a full point or a little more or a little less, it's there. I believe very often you'll lose that point in the offseason.

Well, if there was any doubt it was possible, I don't think so anymore. My PG, who got the no more defense email a week or so ago just improved another point in that department last night.

I got an email from CS saying that the maxed out email only means he's very close to maxing out.  I'll look for it.

6/2/2011 5:00 PM Customer Support
Mike,

Those emails just mean that is close to his max, not that he's absolutely at his max.

Has anyone ever seen a 2 point move up after that message?  I have not, but I usually cut the minutes back so I would not be the best test case

I am seen a 1-point improvement many, many times, but I'm 99% certain I've never seen a 2-pt improvement after the email.

Posted by mamxet on 6/12/2011 8:19:00 AM (view original):
I think it must mean that the message really signals that he is within some very tiny range of his hard cap. Lets imagine that it means that he is within 0.2 of the hard cap? If so, maybe this guy was at 98.4 and the hard cap for him is 98.6 and he happened to move up to 98.5 as a result of minutes played with the effect of changing the visible rating to 99 ???

I imagine that all ratings are really decimals to some larger number of decimal places.......

yeah, i think its a large number of decimals in the system. and, i think ratings are truncated - and all your players start at a flat number. so like, they start at 85.000, and then when they hit 85.999, its still 85 - only at 86, does it switch. i figure it has to be that way due to the amount it times to take to get your first point often exceeding the second by a practice.

i never watched it myself, but i have heard very rarely a player will have 2 points left after the email.

also, OP, you can reduce to 0 after the maxed email, its no problem, really.

I've never had a 2 point improvement, but I did have a player gain 1 pt in defense and SB after getting the maxed out message.  Don't know if that counts or not, but it is technically 2 points off the same practice minute category