anyone seen this before?
I was looking at a couple juco players, and I made sure to only search for players who were undecided. Found 2, sent phone calls between 8 pm and 11pm. At 11 pm one of the kids is showing considering another school - which turns out to be a sim??

That sounds like a glitch to me. I think you need to send a ticket on that one.

Had that happen to me in Phelan a bit back. Is the SIM school the kid is considering coached by a human last season? Only thing I can think of is a human coach put effort into the kid, but he went juco, and the coach left after that season.

7/26/2011 3:12 AM	dacj501
RECRUITING - TIME SENSITIVE ************************** Between 8 pm and 11 pm I searched for some juco centers, specifically selecting only undecided recruits for my search. I called 2 of them, one being Paul Warfield from Middletown, NY. After the 11pm cycle ran, I got the message that he was recruitable, but he also now showed (as of 11 pm) as considering a SIMAI school. He was not considering at 8pm. Is this something new for SIMAI or is it some kind of error?
7/26/2011 9:17 AM	Customer Support
Darryl, All efforts from Puerto Rico, Rio Piedras were performed during the previous season's recruiting session. We don't track when a team appears on the considering list.
7/26/2011 9:45 AM	dacj501
Doesn't that last season info kick in immediately or does this mean that there is some kind of delay? I am 100% sure that no one was showing considering on him at 8 pm. I have never seen a sim show up at that time before, in fact, the sims all show up at 6 pm in my experience. I'm not sure what you are trying to say when you tell me you don't track when a team appears on the considering list. Could you please explain?
7/26/2011 12:06 PM	Customer Support
Normally, the team would appear on the considering list before recruiting began. It's possible there was some delay in this case. We don't save any record of date/time that a team actually appears on the considering list. That means we can't tell exactly when a certain team did show up on the list.
7/26/2011 12:11 PM	dacj501
what would cause that delay? like I said, I've never seen that before, and this is another situation where someone could spend money expecting things will work a certain way only to be surprised by something that isn't typical...
7/26/2011 4:01 PM	Customer Support
An error during processing could cause a delay, but there's no indication of that anywhere in our data.
7/26/2011 4:06 PM	dacj501
it seems an error must have occurred then, as I can assure that he was not considering until 11 pm. I've moved on to other players, so there is no action I am seeking, but you should be aware of an error if that is the case. You can see that my effort came between 8 and 11. I would not have bothered calling someone already considering, and I specifically sorted my search results to only include players who were listed as undecided.
7/26/2011 4:08 PM	Customer Support
We'll continue to investigate and add more tracking information to allow us to better answer these types of questions.

Posted by pumphead on 7/26/2011 2:59:00 AM (view original):
Had that happen to me in Phelan a bit back. Is the SIM school the kid is considering coached by a human last season? Only thing I can think of is a human coach put effort into the kid, but he went juco, and the coach left after that season.

sim school has been sim for a number of seasons. CS beats around issue. Another example of something new to eff up recruiting.

Could be a kid who was ineligble last season but didn't report.  He was considering one team but then went JUCO.

Posted by Trentonjoe on 7/27/2011 10:09:00 AM (view original):
Could be a kid who was ineligble last season but didn't report.  He was considering one team but then went JUCO.

yup - and he should show considering at the start of recruiting, not 2 cycles later...

Did anyone besides me notice the name of the kid was Paul Warfield?? 

the only thing i can think of is that maybe the sim team had spent money on the player the previous season, and 25% of it was just barely under what it takes to get considered in cycle 1. we know that threshold goes down eventually, i didn't think it went down in the first couple cycles, but i don't know that it doesn't, either.

Posted by gillispie on 7/27/2011 4:09:00 PM (view original):
the only thing i can think of is that maybe the sim team had spent money on the player the previous season, and 25% of it was just barely under what it takes to get considered in cycle 1. we know that threshold goes down eventually, i didn't think it went down in the first couple cycles, but i don't know that it doesn't, either.

i think this is the answer, and I saw it happen in another instance in this Knight recruiting period.