Girt, the Champion (colluder) Topic

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Posted by jpmills3 on 11/9/2011 3:32:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tianyi7886 on 11/9/2011 3:27:00 PM (view original):
Easy way to end this is to have Dbalog come out to say what his real account is, and then have the person with Dbalog + the real account post via his real account, saying Dbalog is his. 
Doesn't change the fact he has colluded in the past, but that would be a start....

Here is what we know.  Dbalog was sitemailing peeps during Rupp recruiting - for D1.  There were only so many battles going on when this was going down, Girt was one of those.  Florida and I were another.  Pretty sure I wouldn't start this thread about myself :)
So because dbalog fished for information. .and Girt wasn't involved in battles. . that is proof that dbalog is Girt?  Seems pretty weak sauce evidence, really. . ..

Just saying, it doesn't seem to meet the standard of very strong.


11/9/2011 4:39 PM
No definitive way to get at the truth here. Better just to let it go. For those who think girt colludes, act accordingly. For those who don't (I'm included), act accordingly. If girt actually colludes, I'm sorry for jp. But I think even if so, jp's better served by recruiting as best he can, regardless of girt's actions. No likely way WIS would ever investigate on the level required to settle this to the satisfaction of all those in the right.
11/9/2011 5:00 PM
JMO
11/9/2011 5:00 PM
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In addition, he recently used an alias ID to troll programs hoping to find out what recruits they would be targeting (so he could avoid jumping into those battles).  That sir, is also collusion.  I bet it is tip of the ice berg stuff really.
11/9/2011 5:01 PM
Posted by jpmills3 on 11/9/2011 5:18:00 PM (view original):
Posted by a_in_the_b on 11/9/2011 5:01:00 PM (view original):
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In addition, he recently used an alias ID to troll programs hoping to find out what recruits they would be targeting (so he could avoid jumping into those battles).  That sir, is also collusion.  I bet it is tip of the ice berg stuff really.
He jumped into OTHER battles - the ones where the big boys weren't fishing or wouldn't be fishing.
. . .so its a supposition based entirely on negative information about who he DIDN'T get into battles with?
11/9/2011 5:30 PM
Anyone else desperately hoping that dbalog AND jpmills are both girt aliases?
11/9/2011 5:34 PM
Question: Is there a rule against having alias' in the same world?

Ex. Say I make account Salagv2 and have Salagv2 take over another D3 program in Allen world, as Salag currently is coaching at D3 Suffolk in Allen. Against rules or within the rules?
11/9/2011 5:49 PM

Umm, I hate to break it to you jpmills, but if girt is a cheater, than so are you. You admit in your original post (assuming 100% accuracy for arguments sake) that another coach sent you a sitemail saying we both have A+ prestiges, let's not fight over a player and instead use our A+ prestiges to beat out other schools.  You then dropped off of the referenced recruit and went out and got a different one.  As collusion requires 2 people, you and girt worked together to collude against other coaches.  Again, assuming your post is true.
Now, considering your entire evidence in this allegation amounts to "i'm telling the truth cause girt is a cheater" and he has denied the facts of your original post, I hope there is more evidence other than "they write the same style".  If not, simple answer to all problems, if someone sitemails you for info, delete it, then its a waste of their time.

11/9/2011 6:03 PM
So JP. . where are all of these other people coming out of the woodwork?  The only thing that even seemed to come lukewarm close at best was tiayni . . and I don't really read even that as support for your contention, as it seemed at best agnostic on your accusation.  I am going to assume you are out there by yourself until I see some evidence that you aren't.


11/9/2011 6:16 PM
From:
dbalog
To:
jdno
Received:
11/6/2011 6:52:00 PM
Subject:

Message:
I'm enjoy the subplot to recruiting of "who will the Illinis unleash their fury on?" Will it be Pitt and Cooney? Poor Cincy and Hern? The Vols and Gilliland? So many interesting choices!
11/9/2011 6:20 PM
Posted by milkamania on 11/9/2011 6:03:00 PM (view original):

Umm, I hate to break it to you jpmills, but if girt is a cheater, than so are you. You admit in your original post (assuming 100% accuracy for arguments sake) that another coach sent you a sitemail saying we both have A+ prestiges, let's not fight over a player and instead use our A+ prestiges to beat out other schools.  You then dropped off of the referenced recruit and went out and got a different one.  As collusion requires 2 people, you and girt worked together to collude against other coaches.  Again, assuming your post is true.
Now, considering your entire evidence in this allegation amounts to "i'm telling the truth cause girt is a cheater" and he has denied the facts of your original post, I hope there is more evidence other than "they write the same style".  If not, simple answer to all problems, if someone sitemails you for info, delete it, then its a waste of their time.

Already said as much Milkamania.  Totally blew.  Trying to atone now.
11/9/2011 6:21 PM
From:
dbalog
To:
jdno
Received:
11/8/2011 9:23:00 PM
Subject:
very quick Q
Message:
"Hey coach, your scholarship offer really means a lot to me. I can see myself at your school next season. But, another school is promising me a way to make my own name for myself. That's awfully appealing. I just can't decide yet."

Am I ahead? Behind? Too close to call?
11/9/2011 6:22 PM
Posted by salag on 11/9/2011 5:49:00 PM (view original):
Question: Is there a rule against having alias' in the same world?

Ex. Say I make account Salagv2 and have Salagv2 take over another D3 program in Allen world, as Salag currently is coaching at D3 Suffolk in Allen. Against rules or within the rules?
No. You can have multiple teams in the same division even, so long as they are 1000 miles apart, though Customer Service will make an exception to like 800 miles.  
11/9/2011 6:23 PM

And as a note, I really don't consider sitemails a valid proof. . as there isn't really any way to tell that someone isn't typing a sitemail up out of whole cloth.  no way to see the originals, so to speak.

 



11/9/2011 6:23 PM
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