Name	Yr.	Pos.	A	SPD	REB	DE	BLK	LP	PE	BH	P	WE	ST	DU	FT	TOT
Jimmy Whittaker	Fr.	C	63	24	39	37	30	13	15	20	48	47	64	57	D	457
Robert Hardee	Jr.	C	59	30	74	69	54	15	25	20	27	48	70	64	C+	555
Charles Browder	Jr.	C	32	28	58	41	47	51	1	36	50	53	82	52	C	531
Thomas Storm	So.	PF	48	52	68	47	60	72	25	25	11	70	73	58	C+	609
Roy Bridgewater	Jr.	PF	38	37	83	28	88	80	1	24	6	44	73	56	C+	558
Matthew Cottone	Sr.	PF	49	15	72	64	58	65	31	10	44	58	82	60	C+	608

Having a little trouble deciding - which two of the above woudl be the best PF/C combo for a Motion/zone defense?

If I went by pure numbers, it would seem to be Storm and Cottone - but is Cottone's additional ATH, DEF, PER, STA and Passing more valuable than Bridgewater's speed, reb, LP, and bh?

 

 

I like Bridgewater at C because of his reb and blk, although the defense weakness is pretty big. Cottone would be first backup at C. At PF, I prefer Hardee, with Storm as first backup. 

I guess i can give up the extra offense of storm with Blackwater and Carter for scoring.

I would start Storm and Bridgewater. No, it's not an awesome defensive combo, but you can get by with them in zone. And they'll give you great offense and solid rebounding and shotblocking.

Posted by bhansalid00 on 11/10/2011 5:15:00 PM (view original):
I would start Storm and Bridgewater. No, it's not an awesome defensive combo, but you can get by with them in zone. And they'll give you great offense and solid rebounding and shotblocking.

How would you get by just become it's zone?  One of those two will end up guarding the inside against whatever low post presence. This is the same as running those two as PF/C in a m2m. 

Posted by tianyi7886 on 11/10/2011 5:32:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bhansalid00 on 11/10/2011 5:15:00 PM (view original):
I would start Storm and Bridgewater. No, it's not an awesome defensive combo, but you can get by with them in zone. And they'll give you great offense and solid rebounding and shotblocking.

How would you get by just become it's zone?  One of those two will end up guarding the inside against whatever low post presence. This is the same as running those two as PF/C in a m2m. 

Bridgewater is too good at REB, LP, and BLK to not start, even with a pretty low DEF. And Storm is more than adequate defensively, and is going to score and rebound really well.

I'd play bridgewater at C, with Hardee as his backup
I'd start Catrone at PF, with Storm as his backup

your team needs defense, this is your best defense, including the shot blocking center which helps in zone, as well as your best rebounding and offense.  Plus, Calltone is your best IQ player, bridgewater second, which is a pretty important tie breaker.  Give hardee about 1/4 qtr the distro of the other 3, all of whom probably should be getting a few more touches than you give them, right now you have too much offense in your backcourt, makes you easier to beat than you could be

I was mainly worried about Cottone's lead feet(Low speed).  Was I giving that too much weight?(No pun intended)

I would also say that it would depend on their IQ. Without knowing that, I plugged their numbers in on my spreadsheet.
For PF I have it as:
Cottone
Storm
Bridgewater
With Cottone only being slightly better than Storm.

For C - here is an idea. All 3 of your PFs rank higher at C than your 3 centers do. Here is the order I have for them:
Cottone
Storm
Bridgewater
Hardee
Browder
Whitaker. (a fairly big dropoff from Browder)

I only have Bridgewater slightly above Hardee, so I would be inclined to start Hardee, and use Bridgewater as his first backup. He's got 83 Reb, so you won't suffer there.

I have a spreadsheet where I weight the values of each attribute and then come up with a position total. It helps me decide who is better. But again, the IQ would make a difference.

Posted by ryandaniel on 11/10/2011 6:26:00 PM (view original):
I was mainly worried about Cottone's lead feet(Low speed).  Was I giving that too much weight?(No pun intended)

d3 is about making tradeoffs, there is lots of good in Catrone, plus he is an A+ IQ.  Plus, his history says he has been a great starter.  Nearly every d3 starter will have a flaw or two.  Many times I see very low ATH, very hi SP, decent PASS guys playing PG for teams, low ATH is not great, but in order to find a guy with great SP and PA, the tradeoff must be made.

Plus, you don't have to start 2 slow guys, which is nice.

YOu were mentioning giving the backcourt too much distribution. . Looking at it it seemed like Blackwell and Carter were by far my best offensive options, my first tier, as it were.    And they still seemed to be scoring efficiently.

Posted by ryandaniel on 11/10/2011 7:42:00 PM (view original):
YOu were mentioning giving the backcourt too much distribution. . Looking at it it seemed like Blackwell and Carter were by far my best offensive options, my first tier, as it were.    And they still seemed to be scoring efficiently.

I like spreading it around some front to backcourt - I don't mind one guard dominating, but when my PG & SG are scoring half my points, that is a bit of a red flag.  I took a look at your boxscore last night, noticed one of the 2 high scorers plays SF, that in itself spreads it out - sorry for not catching that right away.  Although you won and rebounded pretty well, the jury is out if your new strategy worked or not, it did appear you changed a few things?  Anyhow good luck!