EE depends on the players ratings and the teams record - depends hardly at all on his stats

at one time, it did depend on stats - years ago - and folks gamed the system by holding down the distro of soph studs

It depends on stats indirectly IMO, since IMO All-American and even All-conference status can be a factor.

You may be right, Dan. But I say get rid of EEs first, then make it a priority to correct recruit generation asap. Then after that's post-release tested and worked out, start working on a total recruiting design redo. JMO.

Early entries are a HUGE part of college basketball ... eliminating them would be stupid.

As I said, JMO.

Posted by hughesjr on 12/12/2011 11:39:00 AM (view original):
Early entries are a HUGE part of college basketball ... eliminating them would be stupid.

Now that's an argument I don't buy into.

There are lots of things that are integral to real-life hoops that aren't present in HD. And there are lots of things that are present in HD that have little-to-no relationship with real-life hoops.

HThis is the response I got
i Jason,

KB article #762 explains how underclassmen decide on whether to enter the draft:
All players are ranked based on ratings, national awards (e.g. All-American team), team wins, division, and prestige. Underclassmen then make their decision based on where they project combined with their current class. So a sophomore would require a higher projection than a junior in order for them to leave for the draft.

That's just boiler plate response. Sorry, justcamman. I feel your frustration.

Posted by jskenner on 12/12/2011 8:57:00 AM (view original):
Early entries never add to the customer experience. They always hurt it. Why WIS would continue to employ them, when it can only drive customers away, and can never attract new ones, is a continuing source of frustration to me. Why not get rid of all early entries. All customers would be happier. Sure, some coaches would think at times, "wow, it sure is tough to compete for a championship when team X, which won the last 2 titles, keeps reloading." But no coach would ever leave out of that relatively slight frustration. And all coaches would get a great deal of customer pleasure knowing that each player he'd painstakingly recruited and developed, was coming back to fulfill an ultimate HD destiny. Coaches/customers would absolutely love it. As it is now, coaches such as justcamman leave regularly out of clear frustration from losing these type players.

you are wrong. i love early entries removing them might drive me away.  i think they add a lot.

Posted by justcamman on 12/12/2011 7:41:00 PM (view original):
HThis is the response I got
i Jason,

KB article #762 explains how underclassmen decide on whether to enter the draft:
All players are ranked based on ratings, national awards (e.g. All-American team), team wins, division, and prestige. Underclassmen then make their decision based on where they project combined with their current class. So a sophomore would require a higher projection than a junior in order for them to leave for the draft.

Continue pushing back -- multiple times if need be..

Tell them not to give you a boiler plate response. Ask them if anything changed related to who leaves for EE with this update (because this wouldn't have happened before). Keep pushing and you'll eventually get an answer.

Just curious, jwilli. If early entries didn't exist, what about the game without them would drive you away? Serious question.

A+ Teams would be able to stockpile so much talent they would be too good.  The big boys are the only ones hurt by EEs (usually) so its really another advatange for the BCS conferences.

I personally feel that EE's add to the game. I like some element of randomness and I don't mind it being in some pretty important areas.
I'm not sure the logic can't be improved,,, or that there may be too many EE's currently.
But I would be against their removal, or making them totally predictable.
I have lost several soph's... they hurt. But I have also had a kid stay all 5 seasons (inelig), and end up being 1st team AA, National POY, and get drafted #1 overall. He singlehandedly took a mid-major program to the next level.
The entire time he was on my team I actually felt like it was a real life program. He was a good kid, made good grades... was very successful being a big fish in a small pond... and had there not been EE's being removed from the player pool, he undoubtably doesn't end up where he did. I VERY vividly remember getting up each morning after the NT game to see if he had EE'd on me. I just lost a more talented kid... who was a "Playa" in HS and I knew all along he wouldn't make it.

EE's add an element to the game that some of us really enjoy. Some of you don't get it,,, you want everything predictable so the math geeks win everything.
Some of us don't

Posted by reinsel on 12/13/2011 11:15:00 AM (view original):
A+ Teams would be able to stockpile so much talent they would be too good.  The big boys are the only ones hurt by EEs (usually) so its really another advatange for the BCS conferences.

Yes, but if the big boys have 4-5 schollies open every season, that makes their recruiting budgets that much higher and more difficult to recruit against. It's the whole chicken and egg argument - I personally have a tough time recruiting against the Big 10 elites when they almost always have more scholarship openings than me. No easy solution.