DUKE loses big (dont read if u r a duke fan) Topic

Posted by coach_billyg on 3/16/2012 10:44:00 PM (view original):
you know, i really don't hate duke as passionately throughout the season as i do now. its got to be when you hit tourney time and they play that chest-stomping crystal meth smoking laettner's shot every 10 minutes, while gently stroking Duke's abnormally small, all-white male parts

He's also been successfully sued for over $26.5 million by creditors, including Scottie Pippin.   If they have trouble collecting,perhaps  they can garnish hew salary...as assistant coach of the Fort Wayne Mad Ants (D league).  I don't think he'll be pursued for a better job..the Mad Ants have lost 14 of their last 15

3/17/2012 5:25 AM
Posted by alblack56 on 3/17/2012 5:27:00 AM (view original):
Posted by coach_billyg on 3/16/2012 10:44:00 PM (view original):
you know, i really don't hate duke as passionately throughout the season as i do now. its got to be when you hit tourney time and they play that chest-stomping crystal meth smoking laettner's shot every 10 minutes, while gently stroking Duke's abnormally small, all-white male parts

He's also been successfully sued for over $26.5 million by creditors, including Scottie Pippin.   If they have trouble collecting,perhaps  they can garnish hew salary...as assistant coach of the Fort Wayne Mad Ants (D league).  I don't think he'll be pursued for a better job..the Mad Ants have lost 14 of their last 15

dude was on the effing dream team...smh
3/17/2012 6:17 AM
so this thread led me to take a look at Laetnner's Wikipedia page. Oddly enough there was no mention of the stomp or the $25 million+ in judgements he has outstanding. I took care of that - but I wonder how long til his reps remove it - of course, I'll keep checking back and just re add it if they do - had to do that 5 times with Pitino's page regarding the sexy-restaurant-fun time / abortion /extortion thing before they gave up and left it alone...but I am disabled and have a lot of free time on my hands, so its all good - gives me something to do besides trolling wis...
3/17/2012 7:07 AM
there was no mention of the stomp!! if one day, i am a billionaire, i will buy espn and every tournament, instead of the shot, ill show... THE STOMP! ill call it like, pushing for good sportsmanship, but YOU guys will all know the real reason :)
3/17/2012 10:08 AM
Posted by dahsdebater on 3/16/2012 11:00:00 PM (view original):
To be fair, NC gets the same kind of preferential treatment Duke does.  I dislike both.  For some reason Kentucky and UCLA don't seem to get the same advantages in spite of greater historical resumes and similar recent success (I didn't include Indiana since they've been sorta down for a while compared to the 4 programs I did name).
yeah, they want their precious favorite rivalry to stand untouched atop all the sports kingdoms... or something like that!! or else, just a LOT of a guy with roots in north carolina work throughout the NCAA/college basketball world.

im sure someone will prove me wrong (id appreciate it), but i cant really think of any real scandals at UNC that were just swept under the rug, like over at Duke. ok - before you guys go overboard, i mean - IN BASKETBALL. the maggette case had such clear precendents in mizzou and umass - with both programs and coaches being cleared of any wrongdoing in the situation - if that is not favoritism, nothing is. and UNC doesnt have a Dukey V equivalent, to shout their name every 15 minutes, so its not as in your face as Duke, i guess.
3/17/2012 10:30 AM
Posted by coach_billyg on 3/17/2012 10:30:00 AM (view original):
Posted by dahsdebater on 3/16/2012 11:00:00 PM (view original):
To be fair, NC gets the same kind of preferential treatment Duke does.  I dislike both.  For some reason Kentucky and UCLA don't seem to get the same advantages in spite of greater historical resumes and similar recent success (I didn't include Indiana since they've been sorta down for a while compared to the 4 programs I did name).
yeah, they want their precious favorite rivalry to stand untouched atop all the sports kingdoms... or something like that!! or else, just a LOT of a guy with roots in north carolina work throughout the NCAA/college basketball world.

im sure someone will prove me wrong (id appreciate it), but i cant really think of any real scandals at UNC that were just swept under the rug, like over at Duke. ok - before you guys go overboard, i mean - IN BASKETBALL. the maggette case had such clear precendents in mizzou and umass - with both programs and coaches being cleared of any wrongdoing in the situation - if that is not favoritism, nothing is. and UNC doesnt have a Dukey V equivalent, to shout their name every 15 minutes, so its not as in your face as Duke, i guess.
Billy, you kind of got me confused with your post here.  You said the Maggette case was swept under the rug (which it was, and this coming from a diehard Duke fan.  How it was resolved was totally unjustifiable, I'll be the first to admit that), but then you said that UMass and Mizzou were clear precedents with both programs and coaches being cleared of any wrongdoing.  I guess what I'm asking is, if you're saying that both of those coaches and programs were cleared, and they were the precedent for the Duke case, then why should the Duke case be any different?  Or am I just reading your post wrong?

I again, I'm a diehard Duke fan, have been for the last 27 years.  I'll also admit (and did above) that the way the Maggette case was resolved was just terrible and certainly smacked of favoritism (sorry fellow Duke fans, but it did).  There's no doubt in my mind that Duke is THE media darling (for college basketball anyway) and some times it evens gets to be too much for me to take, but I still gotta ride with my team, win or lose.

I got home last night in time to watch about the last 8 minutes of the game, and to be perfectly frank, Lehigh just played better than Duke did.  They played harder, played better on offense and played better on defense.  From what I saw, they were the better team last night and DESERVED to win.  My son, who is 7, summed it up perfectly.  He said that Duke looked lazy and probably thought that all they had to do was show up and they would automatically win.  Told him that he was right on the money.  Duke looked slow, lazy, and no other way to say it other than "entitled".  If the Missouri game didn't wake them up to the fact that the little guys were coming to play, then they deserved to have their ***** handed to them.  I've been saying for years that the first game of the tourney is the little guys "Championship".  Win that game and everything after that is gravy.

I'm not going to use Ryan Kelly's injury as an excuse like some Duke fans will, Duke still had enough talent that they should have won anyway.  Would having Kelly had made a difference?  Probably, but injuries are part of the game, deal with it.  I've been telling my co-workers all season that Duke was just not that good this year, but they didn't want to listen.  They're ALL UK fans, which makes this loss hurt even worse (I've been hearing it all day at work today and REALLY will if UK wins the title, which they probably will), but they still thought Duke was pretty good.  "I" couldn't convince them that Duke was overrated, so maybe this will.  BIG CONGRATS to Lehigh, they played better and deserved the win and this coming from the biggest Duke fan in the state of Kentucky .
3/17/2012 1:37 PM
oh man emy, you are a duke fan living in kentucky? thats rough.

what i meant in my post is, those teams were cleared of any wrongdoing, AND their coach, but the NCAA ruling was that those teams had played an ineligible player, without their knowledge, but the rule is clear and cannot be bent - you can't play an ineligible player for any reason, with or without your knowledge. so, both mizzou and umass had to give back all their regular season wins, all their tourney wins, including UMass final, and had to pay penalties. that is DESPITE either school, program, or coach being cleared of any wrong doing. so, what i was saying is in duke's case, even the "they did nothing wrong and couldnt have known" argument holds no water. i agree with you on pretty much everything you posted.
3/17/2012 2:05 PM
I always love these master of the universe coaches getting exposed. Every time a big boy team loses, it's almost always because they had a **** poor game plan against the other teams best player. Last night it was two conference players of the year going off for 26pts/14reb, and the other 30pt/6reb/6assist.

Kudos to Mizz and Dook for not recognizing the best player on the court at the start of the game, or at any point during it. I mean, all the big upsets I can recall, I can name the player involved. Bryce Drew, Harold Arceneaux, etc. How genius of a coach do you have to be to recognize that guy over there scores 24 pts a game, maybe I should gameplan for that!

I for one of many, loved watching Dook take it in the face last night.
3/17/2012 3:14 PM
Posted by sublightd on 3/17/2012 3:14:00 PM (view original):
I always love these master of the universe coaches getting exposed. Every time a big boy team loses, it's almost always because they had a **** poor game plan against the other teams best player. Last night it was two conference players of the year going off for 26pts/14reb, and the other 30pt/6reb/6assist.

Kudos to Mizz and Dook for not recognizing the best player on the court at the start of the game, or at any point during it. I mean, all the big upsets I can recall, I can name the player involved. Bryce Drew, Harold Arceneaux, etc. How genius of a coach do you have to be to recognize that guy over there scores 24 pts a game, maybe I should gameplan for that!

I for one of many, loved watching Dook take it in the face last night.

On the flipside, teams know their best player is going to be gameplanned for, so they counter the strategies that could be used to stop them. Usually there is a very good reason why a guy averages 24pts a game.

3/17/2012 5:57 PM
Posted by meeper123 on 3/16/2012 10:50:00 PM (view original):
Posted by pepwaves on 3/16/2012 10:44:00 PM (view original):
Posted by meeper123 on 3/16/2012 10:43:00 PM (view original):
I'm glad my bracket isn't completely busted like most of the nation.

I picked Missouri to the E8, and I picked Lehigh to beat Duke.
Wow. Lehigh over Duke? Did you flip a coin or something?
No, here is why I picked Lehigh

1. I hate Duke
2. Lehigh had the attributes the other 4 winning 15 seeds (teams with those attributes were 4-8).

Detroit also has the same attributes as Lehigh and those other teams, but I thought I would be safer picking one team.
You're a clown
3/17/2012 7:30 PM
This thread is full of win. I cannot stop laughing.
3/17/2012 9:36 PM
The gangstas at X weren't happy they didn't get a shot at dookies...


Interestingly, I am told that no 15 seed has advanced to the sweet 16.  I'm hoping my boyz at X will continue that trend.... but like any good fan I have my doubts (I mean, X did lose to freakin' LaSalle)


3/17/2012 11:52 PM (edited)
what does this have to do with HD? Use the other forum to talk real basketball
3/18/2012 12:12 AM
Posted by sublightd on 3/17/2012 3:14:00 PM (view original):
I always love these master of the universe coaches getting exposed. Every time a big boy team loses, it's almost always because they had a **** poor game plan against the other teams best player. Last night it was two conference players of the year going off for 26pts/14reb, and the other 30pt/6reb/6assist.

Kudos to Mizz and Dook for not recognizing the best player on the court at the start of the game, or at any point during it. I mean, all the big upsets I can recall, I can name the player involved. Bryce Drew, Harold Arceneaux, etc. How genius of a coach do you have to be to recognize that guy over there scores 24 pts a game, maybe I should gameplan for that!

I for one of many, loved watching Dook take it in the face last night.

Sublightd, pretty obvious from your comments that you're not a Duke fan (duh), but saying that Coach K got "exposed" is pretty much insinuating that he's not a very good coach.  Don't think you'll find ANY real basketball fan that truthfully believes that the man isn't one of the best around.  Hell, he makes the short list of the best coaches of all-time.

Yes, Duke should have handled Lehigh's star player differently and that was a coaching mistake (or more likely, the fact that Duke's defense this year just flat out SUCKED and they COULDN'T stop him).  But again, to suggest that he got "exposed" as not being a good coach is just a silly, ridiculous statement.  And you know it, whether you're man enough, truthful enough and unbiased enough to admit it or not.

3/18/2012 12:20 AM
Posted by willowcards2 on 3/18/2012 12:12:00 AM (view original):
what does this have to do with HD? Use the other forum to talk real basketball
Forum police, gotta love 'em!
3/18/2012 12:21 AM
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