Ok, I have not changed jobs since the last jobs update (of course I'm not qualified for anything since then either - related?)

In Tark Arkansas just fininshed their 2nd season as a sim after being human coached forever. They still made the PIT with an RPI of 80 or something, and still have a couple good players leftover from the old regime. Apparently though no one can get the job, unless the are already at a successful BCS school. Most people don't typically jump from BCS school to BCS school unless its a destination school thing, or they just want a change of pace or something. The mid major coaches that should be moving into jobs like this aren't eligible.

Does anyone think the new jobs thing is working out? Am I the only one with a big problem with it? If you've got an issue with it as well, please use this thread to voice your concerns. Maybe we can get seble to take a look at the thread and maybe even do something about the issue.

Go.

Same thing happened with Vandy in Knight.  Basically the team has to tank before it can be claimed by anybody other than a highest level coach.

Wait a couple of seasons, have them drop to the B- range, and I'll take them :)

Posted by tianyi7886 on 3/21/2012 12:46:00 PM (view original):
Wait a couple of seasons, have them drop to the B- range, and I'll take them :)

not that we wouldn't love to have you T, but waiting for them to keep dropping is kind of the problem...

Straight from D3, I'm qualified for half of the C+ jobs, longshot for the other C+, and fully qualified for all C and lower jobs. Seems a little too easy. 

You're not the only one, dacj51. Tons of tickets have been sent, as yet to no avail. My latest WTH moment (fortunately, I wasn't actually looking to move) was with Crum Virginia. In 7 seasons I was lucky enough to build an ACC door mat (hadn't been to the NT in 18 years when I arrived and had a bottomed-out C+ prestige) into an A- contender. It took me 7 years of slowly builind team talent and picking the right spots to battle, culminating with 3 of 4 years to the NT, with the last a 2-seed and a final 13 ranking. But HD promotion logic says I'm not qualified for C+ Sienna, when I say I should be qualified for ANY level program, including the highest A+. Now, of course, I should lose out to several other human coaches going for the same job, as my resume, although solid, is not outstanding. But I would like to see such program growth rewarded with consideration by ANY level program, as long as a better resume isn't applying.

It's wild HD went to the trouble of reworking the promotion logic, yet they failed to include an incredibly basic idea of success relative to program level. To my knowledge, WIS did not incorporate any sort of weight for success relative to the program's prestige or immediately past success. So if 1 coach takes over a B- mid-major and maintains that success level, and another coach takes over a D- minor conference team and builds it into the same level of success, HD promotion logic says these are the same. Or actually, the coach who maintained a level of success is actually considered BETTER, since he didn't have down years in building a poor program. IMO, this is more or less ridiculous, but this seems to be true.

Posted by tianyi7886 on 3/21/2012 12:56:00 PM (view original):
Straight from D3, I'm qualified for half of the C+ jobs, longshot for the other C+, and fully qualified for all C and lower jobs. Seems a little too easy. 

Yes, but your D3 Naismith team has been in the Championship game 3 of the last 4 years, winning one.  Menlo is the giant gorilla of D3 and could probably beat most D2 teams. 

I think with your resume, it should be pretty easy.

Posted by ethan66 on 3/21/2012 2:39:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tianyi7886 on 3/21/2012 12:56:00 PM (view original):
Straight from D3, I'm qualified for half of the C+ jobs, longshot for the other C+, and fully qualified for all C and lower jobs. Seems a little too easy. 

Yes, but your D3 Naismith team has been in the Championship game 3 of the last 4 years, winning one.  Menlo is the giant gorilla of D3 and could probably beat most D2 teams. 

I think with your resume, it should be pretty easy.

It's not Menlo. Menlo can't even qualify for C- jobs because it's resume is not long enough. I'm talking about Drew in Tark. 

In Rupp, I have led Princeton to the NT like 10 seasons in a row (but haven't won a game in forever).   My dream job is Rutgers which is now open.   Think I'll qualify?

dac, take a look at the CC in the Big 10 in Tark. We have been hashing this over the last 24 hours or so. I won't go in to the sordid details of my story of why I think a coach who takes over a C+ Big 10 team and takes them consistently to the NT, builds them up to A-, including a Final 4 appearance a couple of seasons ago ought to eligible to take over at least an A- program somewhere else (never been eligible for any A- or better job), but my real gripe is that when I sent a ticket--polite and respectful--all I got in return was an auto-response:

"Thanks for the note. Due to constraints on both personnel, and time, Admin does not review individual coach resumes. Each coach's situation is unique so all we can do is refer you to review the guidelines that are outlined in the KB Article #232. The issue is complex which is why the sim is programmed to review all the needed requirements in making the career decisions. Any response we would make here would only be a personal opinion of which you may very likely not agree with."

When they aren't even reading the tickets and just letting the computer send out meaningless vagaries, it's time to close up shop. I wasn't even asking for a remedy, just someone to look at the logic to see if it is working at all like it should, and I think we all know the answer to that. Even more insulting is that "KB Article #232" hasn't even been updated since the last engine change in which seble said the logic would consider more than just 4 years.

Just glad I'm not looking to change jobs, sounds like a complete mess at this point.

axe, almost every company everywhere sends out a first response to support tickets that sounds like that.  It takes care of the majority of requests and saves a lot of time on the developers' parts.  If you persist they will likely review your request more earnestly.

Posted by dahsdebater on 3/21/2012 3:50:00 PM (view original):
axe, almost every company everywhere sends out a first response to support tickets that sounds like that.  It takes care of the majority of requests and saves a lot of time on the developers' parts.  If you persist they will likely review your request more earnestly.

Agreed, I would keep pushing the issue.

axe, your CC was actually the beginning of my motivation for this thread...that and the fact that it looks like Arkansas will have to become dogshit before we get a human coach in there - not from lack of desire, but because of the new system...

Oh, I have responded.  Honestly, I don't think they want to deal with the issue.

Maybe it's just me who is getting burned out on the game and am finding the way to make my exit and this particular frustration is the straw that broke the camel's back.