Pulling down ranked players in DII Topic

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Posted by emy1013 on 4/29/2012 2:21:00 PM (view original):
Posted by johnmacdan on 4/29/2012 1:50:00 PM (view original):
Before I try to pull down someone I offer them a scholarship along with calls and letterl.  If they don't decline it then I will try to pull them down.  I've used that as my radar on who is open to me recruiting them.  If I tried to pull them down first, would I get more acceptance or does it matter?
Seems like a potential waste of a $100 scholarship.  Why not just send a call first to see if they're open to being recruited or not?
Definitely a waste of money.
4/29/2012 11:22 PM
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Posted by yanks250125 on 4/28/2012 8:31:00 PM (view original):
with my A+ prestige D2 school, i just pulled down the #152 SG from 1500 miles away using only 2 home visits, 1 campus visit, 5 scouting trips, 20 phone calls (9, 7, 2, 1, 1), and 7 letters.  he also rejected 2 home visits, and 2 campus visits, and also rejected 10 guaranteed minutes. 
Are you 100% sure this is a pull down and not a drop down?

If he wasn't on your D2 list already, there's no way he would've accepted any HV's or CV's.
4/29/2012 11:23 PM
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Posted by ethan66 on 4/28/2012 8:07:00 PM (view original):
It doesn't matter anyway, Girt.  By the time I could have sent more effort he was already considering someone else.


Maybe for this time, but hopefully that info can help you in the future.
4/29/2012 11:24 PM
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Posted by girt25 on 4/29/2012 11:23:00 PM (view original):
Posted by yanks250125 on 4/28/2012 8:31:00 PM (view original):
with my A+ prestige D2 school, i just pulled down the #152 SG from 1500 miles away using only 2 home visits, 1 campus visit, 5 scouting trips, 20 phone calls (9, 7, 2, 1, 1), and 7 letters.  he also rejected 2 home visits, and 2 campus visits, and also rejected 10 guaranteed minutes. 
Are you 100% sure this is a pull down and not a drop down?

If he wasn't on your D2 list already, there's no way he would've accepted any HV's or CV's.
yeah, i searched guys by D1 only and targetted this one who was near the bottom of that list
4/30/2012 5:30 AM
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And he accepted the CV and HV? I've never seen or heard of that.
4/30/2012 7:10 AM
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yanks, what would help here is a cycle by cycle description of your efforts and his responses to them.  Maybe he started on your D1 screen, but by the time he accepted your CVs and HVs he was actually on your D2 screen.
4/30/2012 8:42 AM
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Posted by dacj501 on 4/29/2012 7:43:00 PM (view original):
Posted by johnmacdan on 4/29/2012 1:50:00 PM (view original):
Before I try to pull down someone I offer them a scholarship along with calls and letterl.  If they don't decline it then I will try to pull them down.  I've used that as my radar on who is open to me recruiting them.  If I tried to pull them down first, would I get more acceptance or does it matter?
HD Pulldown Advice.doc - Google Docs
Thank you very much.  I actually started the scholarship thing because it was saving me money.  I was sending 10 calls, coach calls and letters, then went to 1 call and the scholarship offer.  If all I need to do is make a call then I can save a fortune.. Thanks for your help.
4/30/2012 8:58 AM
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One last thing as I go into recruiting.  There is no advantage to getting someone to drop down by spending more on them at the very onset, correct?  I would get the same backup or take a hike message if I make one call opposed to ten calls and ten scouting trips for my first contact??
5/2/2012 7:58 PM
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If you're just looking for confirmation that he'll eventually drop, then yes, one call is sufficient.  Sometimes it could be to your advantage to hit him hard early though as it may scare off other teams thinking of trying to pull him down if they see him already considering you.  Of course, a D1 team may also like the player and that initial effort could go to waste if they chase him too.

5/2/2012 8:38 PM
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5/29/2012 12:38 PM (edited)
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Pos RANK Rating Eligible Miles Can be pulled Down
   
PG 198 487 4 30 Yes
SF 195 562 3 320 no
C 191 502 4 340 no
PF 187 529 4 30 Yes
C 183 555 4 30 Yes
PG 183 503 4 340 No
SF 168 623 3 20 no
SG 161 589 2 30 yes
PG 159 509 4 20   YES
PG 146 553 4 200 no
C 145 517 4 20 yes
SG 123 518 4 360 no
PF 119 567 4 20 no
SG 113 548 4 20 no
5/29/2012 12:37 PM (edited)
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