I'm considering removing the booster gift feature from recruiting.  I wanted to get some feedback on that idea. Thanks.

Posted by seble on 6/5/2012 11:16:00 AM (view original):
I'm considering removing the booster gift feature from recruiting.  I wanted to get some feedback on that idea. Thanks.

I won't shed any tears if it disappears.

I dont think anyone would care one way or another. It seems the only people (atleast who admit) using booster gifts...are newbies who dont get that the penalty far outweighs the rewards or desperate vets who were on their way out anyhow.

Agree. Go for it, seble.

Agreed, remove booster gifts..

Yeah, do it....grades too ;) lol

I have never used it or care to...but somehow feel if people want to take risk for lil gain let them (kinda like real life)

Either remove them totally or make it so there is a better chance of getting away with using them.  As it stands now, if you use boosters, you're about 95% sure to get caught.  If you kept them in the game and made it so there was a better chance to get away with using them, I'd say that you would also need to ramp up the penalties even more than they are now.  REALLY hammer a team if they get caught.  No postseason automatically, lose the player possibly, fire the coach maybe, something along those lines.  If I had to choose one or the other though, I'd say get rid of them completely. 

I vote for removal.

If it stays, however, and a coach gets caught using it, he should not be allowed to keep the player. I've seen it used when a team knew they weren't a post-season worthy team and a probation penalty was actually no penalty at all.

Posted by dcy0827 on 6/5/2012 12:34:00 PM (view original):
Either remove them totally or make it so there is a better chance of getting away with using them.  As it stands now, if you use boosters, you're about 95% sure to get caught.  If you kept them in the game and made it so there was a better chance to get away with using them, I'd say that you would also need to ramp up the penalties even more than they are now.  REALLY hammer a team if they get caught.  No postseason automatically, lose the player possibly, fire the coach maybe, something along those lines.  If I had to choose one or the other though, I'd say get rid of them completely. 

I have a feeling that 95% number is way off, probably around 50%. Coaches who successfully used boosters do not make threads in the forum saying how boosters suck or it doesn't work; only those who get caught do.

As for boosters, I vote for keeping it for D1 only. D2 coaches are probably ignorant to the consequences of boosters while most D1 coaches are not. If you are a D1 coach and decided to gamble, let him do it. 

Posted by tianyi7886 on 6/5/2012 1:13:00 PM (view original):

Posted by dcy0827 on 6/5/2012 12:34:00 PM (view original):
Either remove them totally or make it so there is a better chance of getting away with using them.  As it stands now, if you use boosters, you're about 95% sure to get caught.  If you kept them in the game and made it so there was a better chance to get away with using them, I'd say that you would also need to ramp up the penalties even more than they are now.  REALLY hammer a team if they get caught.  No postseason automatically, lose the player possibly, fire the coach maybe, something along those lines.  If I had to choose one or the other though, I'd say get rid of them completely. 

I have a feeling that 95% number is way off, probably around 50%. Coaches who successfully used boosters do not make threads in the forum saying how boosters suck or it doesn't work; only those who get caught do.

As for boosters, I vote for keeping it for D1 only. D2 coaches are probably ignorant to the consequences of boosters while most D1 coaches are not. If you are a D1 coach and decided to gamble, let him do it. 

You might be right Tianyi, 95% may be on the high side.  But, I think 50% is probably on the low side too.  Split the difference and call it 75% and we're probably pretty close.  I'd still vote to get rid of them entirely though.

I don't see much harm either way. If they go away, I suspect only a few people will miss them. If they stay, I'd also be OK with tianyi's idea to leave them at D1 only. 

I agree with D1 only or get rid of them.

While I believe that booster gifts ought to be removed from DII immediately (just like DIII), I think booster gifts could stay available in D1, provided:

1. (seconding dcy's thoughts) the likelihood of getting caught should be lowered, but a post-season ban made a much more likely result, coupled with the player potentially being ruled permanently ineligible and loss of a scholarships a possibility;
2. The cost of each gift should be dramatically increased; and 
3. The risk/reward of each gift be made more plain (e.g. low, middle & high efficacy gifts with increasing costs and increasing likelihood of getting caught).

I think it's a mistake to remove all of the color & intrigue from the game.  Going right back to the Wooden UCLA teams, college basketball has always had issues with its own amateur ethic.   That said, as long as some other personality issues remain to color the game, I would concede that booster gifts could be removed from this game entirely and probably wont be missed.  

+1 for removal.