Posted by arssanguinus on 6/10/2012 3:39:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bow2dacowz on 6/10/2012 3:21:00 PM (view original):

Posted by arssanguinus on 6/10/2012 2:56:00 PM (view original):
So you want them released without testing or allowing for commentary? If they were released immediately and there was the smallest error, you would be making a post whining about that. He had run tests - that doesn't mean the teats didn't reveal other things that needed fixing.I

First of all, off your high horse about whining when I freely admitted in my first post that I was going to be ********.

Second of all, if there were things that needed to be fixed and it was a work in progress then it should have said as much.  "I want to do this...I'm trying to get X result", etc.  Not "I did this, and I did that, and this is what it's going to mean going forward" which is exactly what he said.  

Third of all, point #2 aside, what is the worst that can happen if the new logic doesn't work out as planned?  More seniors get drafted?  I'd rather have that than guys going that shouldn't be going.

... You know, with the way you are going on here I think you would be he LAST person in the world that could complain about someone being on a "high horse" as you talk from your "high elephant" ...

Good one.  I guess that's really the only argument that exists for you though.

Reality is I said I was about to do something and then that was exactly what I did.  

Too bad the same can't be said for WIS.  I'm sure it will get done eventually...which is what they should have said.  

Still, I'm glad HD does exist. It's (much) better than nothing, which is what I had before 2005. But after several years, I'm more aware of its frustrating limitations than any fun I get from playing the game. So what's sillier, HD's limitations or my contining payment for something that's really not that fun or deep?

Actually, he DID say they weren't done, so ...

To quote ...

Just to clarify, none of these changes will go into effect for a little while.  I'll release everything at once and make all the appropriate announcements.  The blog is just to keep everyone up to date on what's going on.

Posted by arssanguinus on 6/10/2012 4:05:00 PM (view original):
To quote ...

Just to clarify, none of these changes will go into effect for a little while.  I'll release everything at once and make all the appropriate announcements.  The blog is just to keep everyone up to date on what's going on.

Exactly ... when he makes the changes, it will be in the release notes.

He is communicating ... you know, telling us what he thinks we need ... then listening to feedback.

He has already gone back and done major adjustments from the first post listening to feedback.  And it will get rolled in.  And a bunch of changes have already been rolled in (during the last update).

One may not like the changes .. that is fine.  But at least they are trying to fix both this game (HD) and Grid Iron dynasty.

Posted by arssanguinus on 6/10/2012 3:58:00 PM (view original):
Actually, he DID say they weren't done, so ...

Yeah a week later after making his post about everything he had "done" and how it would affect the game moving forward.

No changes have EVER actually been in effect until in release notes ...

and here I am the whole time thinking the bigger problem is that he has a B+ prestige after 1 good season in the last 30

Stop whining. Seriously. He never said that they were implemented. Seble has repeated multiple times that a change has not gone into effect until it is in the Release Notes. So why would you expect different?  How are changes supposed to be in effect before they are made? I am not expecting the redshirting changes to change this upcoming pre-season (allen world) because...oh, the change to RSing has not been made.

Bottom line: Bad luck that your guy left before the change has been made. Get over it, I'm sure you're not the only coach that was screwed in that draft due to the current EE system.

And I agree with milkmania, how the heck does a team with one winning season in the past 7 and only three times from seasons 24-49 (this past year was 22-9, the other two were 15-14/14-13). Three NT bids in 49 seasons. Really? Am I missing something?

This seems to be the most feedback we've been given since Tarek was running the show. To be hyper critical because things aren't happening instantly is a bit offbase. I prefer this compared to the months of silence.

Posted by milkamania on 6/10/2012 5:08:00 PM (view original):
and here I am the whole time thinking the bigger problem is that he has a B+ prestige after 1 good season in the last 30

So start a thread about it if that's what you feel.  I don't mind.  

Posted by salag on 6/10/2012 5:22:00 PM (view original):
Stop whining. Seriously. He never said that they were implemented. Seble has repeated multiple times that a change has not gone into effect until it is in the Release Notes. So why would you expect different?  How are changes supposed to be in effect before they are made? I am not expecting the redshirting changes to change this upcoming pre-season (allen world) because...oh, the change to RSing has not been made.

Bottom line: Bad luck that your guy left before the change has been made. Get over it, I'm sure you're not the only coach that was screwed in that draft due to the current EE system.

And I agree with milkmania, how the heck does a team with one winning season in the past 7 and only three times from seasons 24-49 (this past year was 22-9, the other two were 15-14/14-13). Three NT bids in 49 seasons. Really? Am I missing something?

Stop reading.  Seriously.  You knew what was coming so dont complain about what the contents of my post were.  

And why would I expect differently?  Because all I read was the first post which makes it sound like it's been done.  I don't keep detailed notes about the past history of updates and when they are released, but when I read something that initially sounds like it's been done, I take it at face value.

Bottom line, I stated up front that I was going to be b*tching and you made the choice to read it.  Get over it if you don't agree with me.  I never said I was the only one, but thanks for agreeing that I was screwed.  Your approval means the world to me.  

As to the prestige issue, again, feel free to submit a ticket when you're done whining about it :D  I'm sure it's tied heavily to the fact that we've made 4 postseasons in 5 years and more importantly to conference prestige since our conference has pretty much dominated the post season for the last 8 seasons or more.  I don't really like that aspect of prestige calculations so I'll even support your ticket that my prestige should be lower.  

Seriously, if you post something you sort of have to expect people to respond and the just MIGHT not agree with you, you know. That is what happens in public forums ...

Posted by arssanguinus on 6/10/2012 6:33:00 PM (view original):
Seriously, if you post something you sort of have to expect people to respond and the just MIGHT not agree with you, you know. That is what happens in public forums ...

I don't care if you or they don't agree with me.  I just think its funny that people want to call me out for whining when I acknowledged in the very first post that that was exactly what was going to be going on in this thread.