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This reminds me of a quote from Eddie Murphy Raw:
"If you're starving and somebody throw you a cracker, you gonna be like this: *******, that's the best cracker I ever ate in my life! That ain't no regular cracker, was it? What was that, a Saltine? *******, that was delicious. That wasn't no Saltine. That was... That was a Ritz. That wasn't a Ritz? God, that was the best cracker I ever ate in my life."
So, basically, NCSU was originally starving, and you were the cracker.  But now...
"Hey, I just got some regular old crackers."

6/16/2012 5:21 PM
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car_crazy_v2 - I don't really agree with your position, but I wanted to let you know I think you're catching more crap here than is justified.

The forums have been pretty bitchy lately.
6/16/2012 5:28 PM
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Posted by dahsdebater on 6/16/2012 5:19:00 PM (view original):
car_crazy, I've just been wanting to say this all thread - you do know that Rutgers is a Big East team, right?  'Cause TJ just took over there and is working on a rebuild right now...

Don't let that interrupt your rant, though.  Your extensive and ridiculously successful resume obviously speaks for itself...
Where am I ranting? And that doesn't change the fact that he's only been there for one and a half seasons and it also doesn't change the fact that it isn't nearly as competitive of a conference as the ACC in Crum. 

With that being said, I wish him luck and would love to revisit his opinion after next season when he will have lost his two best players. And also see if he wins a NT game within his first four seasons. He did start off with a B prestige after all. 

Also, where did a brag about my resume at all? Am I missing something? Because I've said that I don't think I should be exceeding expectations, but by the RPI which is so stressed in WIS, I have given the team a massive improvement in talent and success. 

Please respond to this dahs because I don't see where I said my resume was either extensive or ridiculously successful? 
6/16/2012 6:08 PM
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Also, some people are getting genuinely upset here which is a bit sad. This wasn't intended to be an extremely opinionated thread (rather one just to suggest a possible change in logic) so if you're going to make a post just for the sake of arguing, think twice about what you're doing because you're probably wasting your own time and energy in doing so. 
6/16/2012 6:20 PM
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I'm not going to offer an opinion here.  What I will point out is that I believe that what has happened is you did not do well enough to move up to exceeding expectations - despite the postseason, the low wins totals hurt there.  Then, in the most recent season the results were down from the prior season, which gets the one step down indicator - labelled boosters complaining.  if it feels better, think of it as minus one on job security where you need a minus three to have any chance of getting fired

Team History
Season Coach Overall
W-L		 Home
W-L		 Road
W-L		 Neutral
W-L		 Conf
W-L		 Rank RPI Prestige Notes
53 car_crazy_v2 13-15 3-7 10-7 0-1 6-10   41 B+ PI (1st Round)
52 car_crazy_v2 14-14 5-5 9-7 0-2 4-12   44 B+ NT At-large Bid
NT (1st Round)
51 car_crazy_v2 13-17 5-6 8-10 0-1 5-11   82 B PI (3rd Round)
50 car_crazy_v2 11-18 5-7 6-10 0-1 1-15   57 B- PI (2nd Round)
49 car_crazy_v2 1-26 1-14 0-11 0-1 1-15   230 C+  
6/16/2012 6:55 PM
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Posted by fd343ny on 6/16/2012 6:55:00 PM (view original):
I'm not going to offer an opinion here.  What I will point out is that I believe that what has happened is you did not do well enough to move up to exceeding expectations - despite the postseason, the low wins totals hurt there.  Then, in the most recent season the results were down from the prior season, which gets the one step down indicator - labelled boosters complaining.  if it feels better, think of it as minus one on job security where you need a minus three to have any chance of getting fired

Team History
Season Coach Overall
W-L		 Home
W-L		 Road
W-L		 Neutral
W-L		 Conf
W-L		 Rank RPI Prestige Notes
53 car_crazy_v2 13-15 3-7 10-7 0-1 6-10   41 B+ PI (1st Round)
52 car_crazy_v2 14-14 5-5 9-7 0-2 4-12   44 B+ NT At-large Bid
NT (1st Round)
51 car_crazy_v2 13-17 5-6 8-10 0-1 5-11   82 B PI (3rd Round)
50 car_crazy_v2 11-18 5-7 6-10 0-1 1-15   57 B- PI (2nd Round)
49 car_crazy_v2 1-26 1-14 0-11 0-1 1-15   230 C+  
My opinion:  your big "turnaround" from year 1 to year 2 was nothing more than going 10-0 against crap teams in non-con.  I have no doubt that you scheduled a bunch of ****** sim teams, mostly on the road, and your RPI was inflated because of it.  You have gone from 1 conference win to 6 in five seasons.

I'm not knocking you as a coach; I just took over a crap Virginia Tech team in Wooden with the Big East at an A+ conference prestige right in my backyard, so I know how difficult it can be.  But you haven't done much more than beat a crappy non-con schedule and be lucky enough to be in what I assume is a very good conference.

Sorry, again not trying to be a dick, but that doesn't seem like an objectively good "turnaround" to me.
6/16/2012 7:14 PM
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Well I assure you that I didn't schedule crap for my OOC that season. I've scheduled fairly tough every season and obviously have been knocked for doing that. I played four of my OOC games at home and only two teams that I played had an RPI below 200. Most were in the high/mid 100s and I played maybe one or two Sims and it was because the coach departed after I scheduled the game. 

Just sayin. My SOS was top 100 entering conference play in every season besides 51 I believe. 
6/16/2012 10:44 PM
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How long do you think you should be allowed to go without winning a NT game before you get fired?   Ten seasons?
6/17/2012 12:02 AM
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Posted by car_crazy_v2 on 6/16/2012 6:20:00 PM (view original):
Also, some people are getting genuinely upset here which is a bit sad. This wasn't intended to be an extremely opinionated thread (rather one just to suggest a possible change in logic) so if you're going to make a post just for the sake of arguing, think twice about what you're doing because you're probably wasting your own time and energy in doing so. 
This is just laughable.  First person to start attacking anyone personally was you.
6/17/2012 2:04 AM
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Posted by dahsdebater on 6/17/2012 2:04:00 AM (view original):
Posted by car_crazy_v2 on 6/16/2012 6:20:00 PM (view original):
Also, some people are getting genuinely upset here which is a bit sad. This wasn't intended to be an extremely opinionated thread (rather one just to suggest a possible change in logic) so if you're going to make a post just for the sake of arguing, think twice about what you're doing because you're probably wasting your own time and energy in doing so. 
This is just laughable.  First person to start attacking anyone personally was you.
Who did I attack personally dahs? All I did was tell Trenton that he needs some experience at a Big 6 school before he starts throwing out rules. Please tell me where I made a personal attack on someone. 
6/17/2012 9:27 AM
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Posted by Trentonjoe on 6/17/2012 12:02:00 AM (view original):
How long do you think you should be allowed to go without winning a NT game before you get fired?   Ten seasons?
I don't think there should be a specific rule. There needs to be other considerations. In my opinion, it should be more about if your prestige goes down, you have a season or two to rectify it and if you can't your fired. Or if you are simply maintaining a prestige level that is below baseline for a few seasons. 

My major point is that there needs to be more time to rebuild, but less time for coaches to get away with running teams into the ground. I also think it needs to be easier to move up because it's a shame to watch a high prestige school lose its coach and then eventually fall an entire prestige level or two. 
6/17/2012 9:32 AM
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BTW, with that I am pretty much saying that I need to bring my prestige up to an A- next season or I should take major heat. Doesn't necessarily mean I need to win a NT game; everyone gets upset in the tourney. Would you say Duke or Missouri's coaches should take heat in real life cause they didn't win a NT game and they had all of the talent in the world? 
6/17/2012 9:36 AM
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I think to get NC State to an A- you will need to win a NT game OR be ranked (which is hard to do without winning a NT game).

 

6/17/2012 10:13 AM
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Eh, I think a top 30 RPI and a NT appearance should do it. There are a couple of guys who I think could be drafted as well, which would almost certainly bring me over the hump. 

Also, do you think this coach should have been fired? (B baseline prestige)

53   17-15 8-5 8-8 1-2 4-12   35 B+ PI (Championship Game)
52   17-13 9-7 6-4 2-2 7-9   43 B+ NT At-large Bid
NT (2nd Round)
51   15-13 10-4 5-8 0-1 6-10   83 B+ PI (1st Round)
50   14-14 3-6 11-6 0-2 6-10   40 B+ NT At-large Bid
NT (1st Round)
49   13-15 4-6 9-8 0-1 4-12   69 B PI (1st Round)
48   14-16 6-5 8-10 0-1 5-11   48 B- PI (3rd Round)
47   3-24 1-14 2-9 0-1 2-14   191 C+  

Because according to your rule, he really should have been fired before he got a chance to win a NT game, but he also hasn't improved much in the past four seasons. 

Personally, I think he's doing a fine job and I wouldn't want him to be fired and according to my rule, he wouldn't until his prestige fell to a B. I don't think the replacement coach would do as good of a job if anyone was actually qualified for the job.

Before we start firing coaches, we need to ensure that there will be competent replacements for them. Because the team would likely get destroyed by the Sim before a good coach got there.  

Also, give me your opinion on this one to if you could. (A- baseline prestige)

53   19-11 10-4 7-5 2-2 7-9   31 B+ NT At-large Bid
NT (2nd Round)
52   7-20 4-10 3-9 0-1 1-15   137 C+  
51   4-23 4-12 0-10 0-1 1-15   258 C+  
50   8-19 6-8 2-10 0-1 1-15   128 B-  
49   8-19 6-9 2-9 0-1 2-14   157 B-  
48   11-16 9-8 2-7 0-1 2-14   131 B-  


6/17/2012 10:35 AM (edited)
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And those are both of their entire tenures there. 
6/17/2012 10:36 AM
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