Firing of coaches is something that many have complained about, yet still nothing has been done. Rather than throw somebody else under the bus, I'll offer up myself as an example. Take a look at my resumes and tell me where I'm in trouble.

I'll tell you, the only place I have boosters complaining in Northern Iowa. I'm fine everywhere else. That's a broken system as I should be fired from GTown this year and should have been fired from GTech 2 years ago. Thanks god I won the PIT.

I understand that WIS doesn't want to upset customers, but they would make a lot more happy customers by having more jobs come open that people desire.

I fully agree that firings should be ramped up significantly. The fact that coaches at schools like Duke and UNC get to get their jobs after many seasons of PIT appearances is absurd.

I do differ on how quick the firing should happen though. Right now the usual minimum number of seasons it takes to get fired is eight, with the very, very rare seven seasons out there as well. That gives you two sets of players to try and right the ship. Your suggestion of getting fired after your Georgetown team's fifth season is too quick for my taste unless someone is throwing up multiple 0 win seasons.

I agree with stinenavy. I am not in favor of ramping up firings after a coach's first 3-5 seasons,as some have suggested, regardless of the school's prestige. Do that, and with one bad recruiting class, you're basically done. That's too quick, IMO. I think the initial 7-8 season grace period is just about right. I'd lean towards the 7, personally. But after that, firings really need to be ramped up, in accordance with a school's baseline prestige. The actual WIS example of a Kentucky coach going 15 seasons before making his first NT, and 22 seasons before winning his first NT game is ludicrous (no offense intended to the coach, who is a very good one, and someone I respect immensely).

Posted by professor17 on 7/19/2012 9:14:00 PM (view original):
I agree with stinenavy. I am not in favor of ramping up firings after a coach's first 3-5 seasons,as some have suggested, regardless of the school's prestige. Do that, and with one bad recruiting class, you're basically done. That's too quick, IMO. I think the initial 7-8 season grace period is just about right. I'd lean towards the 7, personally. But after that, firings really need to be ramped up, in accordance with a school's baseline prestige. The actual WIS example of a Kentucky coach going 15 seasons before making his first NT, and 22 seasons before winning his first NT game is ludicrous (no offense intended to the coach, who is a very good one, and someone I respect immensely).

I know! The Kentucky/UNC/Duke's of the world should have to produce in 7-8 seasons. For example in RL Tubby Smith got fired and he won a national championship.

Posted by m4284850 on 7/19/2012 10:25:00 PM (view original):

Posted by professor17 on 7/19/2012 9:14:00 PM (view original):
I agree with stinenavy. I am not in favor of ramping up firings after a coach's first 3-5 seasons,as some have suggested, regardless of the school's prestige. Do that, and with one bad recruiting class, you're basically done. That's too quick, IMO. I think the initial 7-8 season grace period is just about right. I'd lean towards the 7, personally. But after that, firings really need to be ramped up, in accordance with a school's baseline prestige. The actual WIS example of a Kentucky coach going 15 seasons before making his first NT, and 22 seasons before winning his first NT game is ludicrous (no offense intended to the coach, who is a very good one, and someone I respect immensely).

I know! The Kentucky/UNC/Duke's of the world should have to produce in 7-8 seasons. For example in RL Tubby Smith got fired and he won a national championship.

Tubby Smith was at Kentucky for 10 seasons, not 7 or 8.  Plus, if you look at those 10 seasons, he produced.  If I had his 10 year run at an HD school and got fired, I'd be done with this game immediately, no question about it.  A National Championship, 3 Elite Eights, 2 Sweet Sixteens, and 4 second round losses.

If that's not enough to keep your job in this game (especially given the fact that in our tournament the talent of the teams is generally so much closer to each other, thus making it that much more difficult to make those deep tourney runs every season), then firings would have been ramped up way too high. 

If we are talking about the elite schools why should we give coaches 7-8 years? They should already be experienced coaches if they got that job.

Posted by cburton23 on 7/20/2012 9:29:00 AM (view original):
If we are talking about the elite schools why should we give coaches 7-8 years? They should already be experienced coaches if they got that job.

Well, part of it should depend on the state of the program when the coach takes over. If they're already a successful A prestige school, then yeah, you don't need 7-8 seasons. But if you're taking over a school that has dropped to C-minus, and no other school in the conference is below a B+, all the players are Sim recruits, and there are only 2 upperclassmen on the team, then it's gonna take some time, regardless of how experienced the coach is.