Posted by whitey34 on 8/13/2012 4:26:00 PM (view original):
That actually says nothing. All it says is you learned and accepted the many inaccuracies of the game. You paid the money and dealt with it. Some of us watch college basketball and want it more realistic. Obviously the game is doing well enough to pay the bills but if it wants to really grow it needs to make improvements. Many don't stay because they don't want to pay for BS. It's cronies like you who aren't an honest thinker but would rather die for this game the way it is in it inaccuracies

Posted by whitey34 on 8/13/2012 8:43:00 AM (view original):
Regarding FCP press.  The only ones that don't complain is those who have played WIS for a while.  It really doesn't matter what a teams IQ or Stamina is when running FCP.  All that matters is ATH and DEF and you are good to go.  Thats the dumbest thing ever.  How can WIS sit back and not make more changes to the FCP.  Any real team who has weak IQ and Stamina will get blown out of the water as the press breaks down most of the time.  Yes,there will be TOs, but a team will shoot 60%+ with easy baskets.  The cronies on here need to be honest thinkers for once.

Haven't had much time to read the forums lately and when I do I come across this-- Don't see how this is benefitial for anyone but definetely some well-respected, nicer players responding.  I still think this comes back to WIS (and the community as a whole) not doing a good enough job educating new players on the fact that the logic of WIS doesn't equal the logic in rl.  Remember NBA JAM?  I could dunk it from the three point line and if I got hot, hit three's from all over.  It wasn't really like basketball but it was still fun.  I think of this as the same, but think the logic needs to be explained better up front by WIS.  The forums, and especially a few of the veteran's threads are very helpful, but would be nice for WIS to do a better job in explaining the way the engine works.  
    I know there is a major learning curve, but I don't think relying solely on mentors is the way to go.  This guy obviously made a few mistakes that if he would have been aware of, wouldn't have reached this level of frustration.  The bottom line, this is a game that favors the experienced and that as well should be stated heavily up front so that new participants know what they're getting into before they sign up for a team. 
    Lastly, I know its not a workable idea, but I would love to see a DIV III world be set aside for newbies.  I'll never understand why a veteran of 30 seasons enjoys beating up on guys that don't know what they're doing, especially given that they most likely have a huge Prestige advantage in addition to the knowledge gap.  I dominate pick up basketball games with only middle-schoolers, but I don't really consider that much of an accomplishment.  I would like to see the veterans accept that mindset more readily and embarass "experts" out of Division III, making it more of a temporary learning spot rather than a fixture.  If we had that, we could have "simmy" advise on moves or provide information much like he does on the jobs process (Coach, you could run UpTempo to take advantage of your depth).  Again, know that is not a popular idea and is not going to happen, but I would much rather play against all human opponents who know what they are doing than win championships playing mostly sims and the uneducated.
    

Posted by ike1024 on 8/14/2012 7:35:00 PM (view original):
In your D3-for-new-players-only world, where would they go when they were done with D3?  How long would they be allowed to play?  Why would they want to play if they couldn't move up or had to leave?

And isn't the best way to learn by playing with the best?  I don't think a bunch of new players running around aimlessly with stupid strategies working against other stupid strategies really prepares anyone for anything.  The best way to learn, in my opinion, is to look at the best coaches in the world and see what works.  A D3 world for only the clueless would, I think, be discouraging once the new players start playing more experienced coaches and start getting throttled.  They will realize they wasted a bunch of money not really learning anything at all, just beating other coaches who didn't know what they were doing.

Don't mean to be harsh, that just seems like a bad idea and a waste of server space to me.