Tea Party 4-18-11 Topic

Posted by antonsirius on 7/1/2010 10:55:00 PM (view original):
Amen to this.
Sounds like she may be to the Right of Stevens.
7/1/2010 11:25 PM
Posted by swamphawk22 on 6/28/2010 1:47:00 PM (view original):
The charts are for the most part accurate. The conclusion you reached is wrong.
1 Democrats for the most part have controlled the House of representatives for the last 50 years. They control the Budget.
2 The world changed. The rest of the world is advancing in technology and economic power. It isnt the same playing field as 1951.

No matter what jobs would be flowing to emerging nations. If we would practice fiscal discipline and Governmental restraint we could advance into the next era and dominate it.
1.  During most of Reagan's time in office, the Senate was controlled by the GOP.  The Senate has an equal vote in the budget process and the President, who submits the original framework of the budget to the House, has veto power.  In other words, it was the GOP that had control of the budget process during the Reagan years.  In fact, when the Dems regained control of the Senate in '87 and maintained control of the House, the deficit was reduced.  
     In addition, your argument that the federal deficit during the '80's was the reason that labor share and individual savings dived, while individual debt skyrocketed, while the wealth of our country continues to concentrate to the top percenters, doesn't hold water.  Corporate taxes have dived to virtually nothing, they outsource jobs to other countries, and control a larger percentage of the wealth than they have in a century.  Yet we continue to reward them with more corporate welfare and less regulation and lemmings such as yourself continue to argue that we're not creating an environment profitable for them to survive.  
2.  Bullshit reasoning.

Deregulation and supply-side economics have been a disaster.
7/4/2010 10:02 AM (edited)
1 I am almost sure all spending legisaltion must originate in the House of Representatives.

2 The world did change. We are still an economic power, but the rest of the world is catching up. They dont need us to thrive and survive. With Asia building their own products, we will have to make things for less. Cuts needed to be made.

7/6/2010 12:02 AM
It does originate in the House, but the Senate has an equal vote and the President (who presents the original framework of the budget in great detail) has veto power.  It was your boys who had the most influence on the budget during the Reagan years.
7/6/2010 1:13 AM
At least we had a budget back then.
7/6/2010 9:07 AM
Posted by creilmann on 7/4/2010 10:02:00 AM (view original):
Posted by swamphawk22 on 6/28/2010 1:47:00 PM (view original):
The charts are for the most part accurate. The conclusion you reached is wrong.
1 Democrats for the most part have controlled the House of representatives for the last 50 years. They control the Budget.
2 The world changed. The rest of the world is advancing in technology and economic power. It isnt the same playing field as 1951.

No matter what jobs would be flowing to emerging nations. If we would practice fiscal discipline and Governmental restraint we could advance into the next era and dominate it.
1.  During most of Reagan's time in office, the Senate was controlled by the GOP.  The Senate has an equal vote in the budget process and the President, who submits the original framework of the budget to the House, has veto power.  In other words, it was the GOP that had control of the budget process during the Reagan years.  In fact, when the Dems regained control of the Senate in '87 and maintained control of the House, the deficit was reduced.  
     In addition, your argument that the federal deficit during the '80's was the reason that labor share and individual savings dived, while individual debt skyrocketed, while the wealth of our country continues to concentrate to the top percenters, doesn't hold water.  Corporate taxes have dived to virtually nothing, they outsource jobs to other countries, and control a larger percentage of the wealth than they have in a century.  Yet we continue to reward them with more corporate welfare and less regulation and lemmings such as yourself continue to argue that we're not creating an environment profitable for them to survive.  
2.  Bullshit reasoning.

Deregulation and supply-side economics have been a disaster.
I haven't seen any supply-side economics happening for years.  Both President Dumbass I and Dumbass II (GWB and Obama) keep using demand side economics and it continues to fail spectacularly.  Keynesian Economics does not work. 
7/6/2010 9:14 AM
The only universal truths of our government for the 40 years before Bush was Democratic House and increase in government. Republicans took control for a short while and were bogged down in a global war gainst terror.

Again Dems control the house and government is expanding.
7/6/2010 6:05 PM
Posted by raucous on 7/6/2010 9:14:00 AM (view original):
Posted by creilmann on 7/4/2010 10:02:00 AM (view original):
Posted by swamphawk22 on 6/28/2010 1:47:00 PM (view original):
The charts are for the most part accurate. The conclusion you reached is wrong.
1 Democrats for the most part have controlled the House of representatives for the last 50 years. They control the Budget.
2 The world changed. The rest of the world is advancing in technology and economic power. It isnt the same playing field as 1951.

No matter what jobs would be flowing to emerging nations. If we would practice fiscal discipline and Governmental restraint we could advance into the next era and dominate it.
1.  During most of Reagan's time in office, the Senate was controlled by the GOP.  The Senate has an equal vote in the budget process and the President, who submits the original framework of the budget to the House, has veto power.  In other words, it was the GOP that had control of the budget process during the Reagan years.  In fact, when the Dems regained control of the Senate in '87 and maintained control of the House, the deficit was reduced.  
     In addition, your argument that the federal deficit during the '80's was the reason that labor share and individual savings dived, while individual debt skyrocketed, while the wealth of our country continues to concentrate to the top percenters, doesn't hold water.  Corporate taxes have dived to virtually nothing, they outsource jobs to other countries, and control a larger percentage of the wealth than they have in a century.  Yet we continue to reward them with more corporate welfare and less regulation and lemmings such as yourself continue to argue that we're not creating an environment profitable for them to survive.  
2.  Bullshit reasoning.

Deregulation and supply-side economics have been a disaster.
I haven't seen any supply-side economics happening for years.  Both President Dumbass I and Dumbass II (GWB and Obama) keep using demand side economics and it continues to fail spectacularly.  Keynesian Economics does not work. 
Bush was a demand sider?  Go back and do your homework.
7/6/2010 6:36 PM
Posted by swamphawk22 on 7/6/2010 6:05:00 PM (view original):
The only universal truths of our government for the 40 years before Bush was Democratic House and increase in government. Republicans took control for a short while and were bogged down in a global war gainst terror.

Again Dems control the house and government is expanding.
You cannot control two out of three bodies of government for the majority of 30 years and then blame the opposition for your disappointments.  The Dems had that control from WWII up until the Reagan years.  The GOP has controlled it since.  We're in the midst of 30 years of supply side economic policies.  Is the average family better off today than they were in the midst of demand side policies back in the 50's or 60's?
7/6/2010 6:48 PM
Posted by creilmann on 7/6/2010 6:36:00 PM (view original):
Posted by raucous on 7/6/2010 9:14:00 AM (view original):
Posted by creilmann on 7/4/2010 10:02:00 AM (view original):
Posted by swamphawk22 on 6/28/2010 1:47:00 PM (view original):
The charts are for the most part accurate. The conclusion you reached is wrong.
1 Democrats for the most part have controlled the House of representatives for the last 50 years. They control the Budget.
2 The world changed. The rest of the world is advancing in technology and economic power. It isnt the same playing field as 1951.

No matter what jobs would be flowing to emerging nations. If we would practice fiscal discipline and Governmental restraint we could advance into the next era and dominate it.
1.  During most of Reagan's time in office, the Senate was controlled by the GOP.  The Senate has an equal vote in the budget process and the President, who submits the original framework of the budget to the House, has veto power.  In other words, it was the GOP that had control of the budget process during the Reagan years.  In fact, when the Dems regained control of the Senate in '87 and maintained control of the House, the deficit was reduced.  
     In addition, your argument that the federal deficit during the '80's was the reason that labor share and individual savings dived, while individual debt skyrocketed, while the wealth of our country continues to concentrate to the top percenters, doesn't hold water.  Corporate taxes have dived to virtually nothing, they outsource jobs to other countries, and control a larger percentage of the wealth than they have in a century.  Yet we continue to reward them with more corporate welfare and less regulation and lemmings such as yourself continue to argue that we're not creating an environment profitable for them to survive.  
2.  Bullshit reasoning.

Deregulation and supply-side economics have been a disaster.
I haven't seen any supply-side economics happening for years.  Both President Dumbass I and Dumbass II (GWB and Obama) keep using demand side economics and it continues to fail spectacularly.  Keynesian Economics does not work. 
Bush was a demand sider?  Go back and do your homework.
Um... My $600 check says otherwise.
7/7/2010 8:27 AM
...and decades of Keynesian Economics has cripple the European Union, especially the PIGS.
7/7/2010 8:28 AM
Sublime ignorance!
7/7/2010 11:27 AM
Posted by raucous on 7/7/2010 8:28:00 AM (view original):
...and decades of Keynesian Economics has cripple the European Union, especially the PIGS.
LOLerz.
7/7/2010 12:38 PM
7/7/2010 1:26 PM
Posted by creilmann on 7/6/2010 6:48:00 PM (view original):
Posted by swamphawk22 on 7/6/2010 6:05:00 PM (view original):
The only universal truths of our government for the 40 years before Bush was Democratic House and increase in government. Republicans took control for a short while and were bogged down in a global war gainst terror.

Again Dems control the house and government is expanding.
You cannot control two out of three bodies of government for the majority of 30 years and then blame the opposition for your disappointments.  The Dems had that control from WWII up until the Reagan years.  The GOP has controlled it since.  We're in the midst of 30 years of supply side economic policies.  Is the average family better off today than they were in the midst of demand side policies back in the 50's or 60's?

But it is ok to control all 3 sides and blame the opposition for stopping your plans?

7/8/2010 8:03 AM
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