Posted by tylermathias on 7/27/2010 1:34:00 PM (view original):
In the interest of full disclosure, he did ask for my opinion on one trade early this morning, but that's it, so I am not said advisor.

Posted by tylermathias on 7/27/2010 2:12:00 PM (view original):

Posted by rlahann on 7/27/2010 2:04:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tylermathias on 7/27/2010 1:59:00 PM (view original):
I've never won fewer than 71 games with a team other than the MLB/erff rebuild.  Just to clarify, outside of trying to fix a broken organization, I do think 60 wins seems like a reasonable floor.  I just think rebuilds/fixerups taken over from someone else's mess can't fairly be held to the same standard as everyone else in a league, which is the basis for most/all of my earlier arguments against.

Don't buy it.  Maybe HR was the best use of your JD after all.

What's not to buy though.  If any anti-tanking system is implemented, doesn't it just make sense to incorporate a little more leniency for those we're able to rope into taking over toasted franchises?  What's the argument against, just that the standard would be lenient enough in your eyes that there's no need to make allowances for such people?

Posted by rlahann on 7/27/2010 11:55:00 AM (view original):
I'm just saying that we should use expertise when it's sitting here in front of us.  If I had a question about ****** prime-time TV, I'd ask Welsh.  If I had a question about how to get the best productivity to salary ratio out of a JD, you'd be my boy.  But if the question is about tanking and win totals?  You really should just shut up and listen to me.

Posted by hugenuge42 on 7/27/2010 2:15:00 PM (view original):
Enough...this isn't some fly by night league looking to make a name.  We don't have a ***** like murph in charge.  If we can't police ourselves without setting a bunch of arbitrary limits then we don't deserve the success we think we've had as a collective.

Posted by rlahann on 7/27/2010 2:20:00 PM (view original):
The conflation of +/- in HBD fielding with +/- in hockey is one of the most awesomely ignorant transpositions by someone who can actually dress themselves that I've ever seen.  Homophones must absolutely ******* rock your world.

Every HBD discussion with him turns into Who's On First...

Posted by hugenuge42 on 7/27/2010 12:21:00 PM (view original):
If we institute any sort of rules, I'm out of $.  Not because I plan on tanking or support it, but because, as bot said....our ridicule should be enough.

Posted by rlahann on 7/27/2010 2:17:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tylermathias on 7/27/2010 2:12:00 PM (view original):

Posted by rlahann on 7/27/2010 2:04:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tylermathias on 7/27/2010 1:59:00 PM (view original):
I've never won fewer than 71 games with a team other than the MLB/erff rebuild.  Just to clarify, outside of trying to fix a broken organization, I do think 60 wins seems like a reasonable floor.  I just think rebuilds/fixerups taken over from someone else's mess can't fairly be held to the same standard as everyone else in a league, which is the basis for most/all of my earlier arguments against.

Don't buy it.  Maybe HR was the best use of your JD after all.

What's not to buy though.  If any anti-tanking system is implemented, doesn't it just make sense to incorporate a little more leniency for those we're able to rope into taking over toasted franchises?  What's the argument against, just that the standard would be lenient enough in your eyes that there's no need to make allowances for such people?

Yes.  Again, I direct you to my tanking expertise.  Any owner who tanks worse than that is either taking it to an unnecessary extreme...or so bad that we probably don't want them in the league.  We've already got enough trade rape wells.

Posted by dherz_263 on 7/27/2010 12:22:00 PM (view original):

Posted by hugenuge42 on 7/27/2010 12:21:00 PM (view original):
If we institute any sort of rules, I'm out of $.  Not because I plan on tanking or support it, but because, as bot said....our ridicule should be enough.

we've sucked at ridicule lately

Posted by jwelsh1023 on 7/27/2010 2:26:00 PM (view original):

Posted by hugenuge42 on 7/27/2010 12:21:00 PM (view original):
If we institute any sort of rules, I'm out of $.  Not because I plan on tanking or support it, but because, as bot said....our ridicule should be enough.

It didnt work on dherz.

Posted by jwelsh1023 on 7/27/2010 2:26:00 PM (view original):

Posted by hugenuge42 on 7/27/2010 12:21:00 PM (view original):
If we institute any sort of rules, I'm out of $.  Not because I plan on tanking or support it, but because, as bot said....our ridicule should be enough.

It didnt work on dherz.