Posted by antonsirius on 10/2/2010 1:42:00 PM (view original):

Posted by creilmann on 10/2/2010 9:52:00 AM:
If Swamp is ignorant to the equal power that the Senate and President hold in budgets and appropriations then there really isn't a point in arguing any further.

Welcome to the club.

So it is ok to say that the policies of 8 years of Reagan in the White House caused the debt?

It isnt ok to say that 50 years of Democratic control of the House caused the debt?

Again this isnt about smart or stupid, this is about left and right!

but swamp the point that you seem to be missing is that the debt sky rocketed during your reagen years and the GOP controlled both the house and the white house for 6 of those 8 years!!!! How is it that you skip right over that fact and continue to argue that the republicans are responsible spenders? Holy partisan hack batman!

Posted by greeny9 on 10/2/2010 2:25:00 PM (view original):
but swamp the point that you seem to be missing is that the debt sky rocketed during your reagen years and the GOP controlled both the house and the white house for 6 of those 8 years!!!! How is it that you skip right over that fact and continue to argue that the republicans are responsible spenders? Holy partisan hack batman!

The Dems controlled the House for 40+ years. They didnt have to stand up and announce what they were doing. They could add in a little at a time slowly. It is the main reason that the role of Government is so very different now than it was in the 50s.

The Debt started almost as soon as Reagan got in. How could this be his agenda?

Reagan fought to lower spending, but the Liberal House, with its ally the media, blasted every attempt to do it.

Reagan was accused of starving kids, busting unions, throwing the mentally ill in the streets, as well as hating blacks and women.

If reagan had the free hand that Obama has he could have changed the very way we look at the role of Government!

Posted by nickbracco on 10/2/2010 3:12:00 PM (view original):
We all know what a weak and ineffective President Reagan was and how the powerful Democratic House was able to bully him into creating such a hugh debt! Way to go swamp! Keep telling the "truth"

And you know I always tell the truth...

LOUD AND PROUD!

How can Regan have starved the kids that are now obese adults?

Posted by swamphawk22 on 10/2/2010 3:06:00 PM (view original):

Posted by greeny9 on 10/2/2010 2:25:00 PM (view original):
but swamp the point that you seem to be missing is that the debt sky rocketed during your reagen years and the GOP controlled both the house and the white house for 6 of those 8 years!!!! How is it that you skip right over that fact and continue to argue that the republicans are responsible spenders? Holy partisan hack batman!

The Dems controlled the House for 40+ years. They didnt have to stand up and announce what they were doing. They could add in a little at a time slowly. It is the main reason that the role of Government is so very different now than it was in the 50s.

The Debt started almost as soon as Reagan got in. How could this be his agenda?

you are right the debt started when a repub was in office and the repubs controlled the house for 6 of 8 years. We finally got Swamp to admit that his side are the heavy spenders! I never thought that I'd see the day! Wow...

is the sky falling? Lol

Liberals say that Reagan starved kids and no one cares.

Put a Hitler mustache on an Obama poster once and the liebral media goes crazy!

Posted by greeny9 on 10/2/2010 3:33:00 PM (view original):

Posted by swamphawk22 on 10/2/2010 3:06:00 PM (view original):

Posted by greeny9 on 10/2/2010 2:25:00 PM (view original):
but swamp the point that you seem to be missing is that the debt sky rocketed during your reagen years and the GOP controlled both the house and the white house for 6 of those 8 years!!!! How is it that you skip right over that fact and continue to argue that the republicans are responsible spenders? Holy partisan hack batman!

The Dems controlled the House for 40+ years. They didnt have to stand up and announce what they were doing. They could add in a little at a time slowly. It is the main reason that the role of Government is so very different now than it was in the 50s.

The Debt started almost as soon as Reagan got in. How could this be his agenda?

you are right the debt started when a repub was in office and the repubs controlled the house for 6 of 8 years. We finally got Swamp to admit that his side are the heavy spenders! I never thought that I'd see the day! Wow...

is the sky falling? Lol

This is the Reagen arguement that I referred to Swamp.  How is it that the repubs were fully in charge for 6 of Reagens 8 years in office and yet that was precisely when the debt started to sky rocket?  You always say its the dems that spend but that graph earlier pretty clearly shows the dems are responsible spenders and it was reagen and the bushes that spent so much.

Lets not also forget that you said it was Obama that signed the $1 trillion dollar bill but I proved you wrong there too in that it was actually Bush that signed into law the 700 billion dollar TARP program.  You are consistently proven wrong here in these forums, but you can never admit to any of it, you simply deflect and spin.  You say all over the place about telling the truth, but I just dont see that being the case, you either lie outright or you give facts from your memory not from 2 or 3 minutes of actualy fact checking on the web.

Posted by greeny9 on 10/3/2010 1:12:00 PM (view original):

Posted by greeny9 on 10/2/2010 3:33:00 PM (view original):

Posted by swamphawk22 on 10/2/2010 3:06:00 PM (view original):

Posted by greeny9 on 10/2/2010 2:25:00 PM (view original):
but swamp the point that you seem to be missing is that the debt sky rocketed during your reagen years and the GOP controlled both the house and the white house for 6 of those 8 years!!!! How is it that you skip right over that fact and continue to argue that the republicans are responsible spenders? Holy partisan hack batman!

The Dems controlled the House for 40+ years. They didnt have to stand up and announce what they were doing. They could add in a little at a time slowly. It is the main reason that the role of Government is so very different now than it was in the 50s.

The Debt started almost as soon as Reagan got in. How could this be his agenda?

you are right the debt started when a repub was in office and the repubs controlled the house for 6 of 8 years. We finally got Swamp to admit that his side are the heavy spenders! I never thought that I'd see the day! Wow...

is the sky falling? Lol

This is the Reagen arguement that I referred to Swamp.  How is it that the repubs were fully in charge for 6 of Reagens 8 years in office and yet that was precisely when the debt started to sky rocket?  You always say its the dems that spend but that graph earlier pretty clearly shows the dems are responsible spenders and it was reagen and the bushes that spent so much.

The 6 of 8 argument is based on the Bush White House, not Reagan. Reagan had to deal with a HUGE Democreatic lead in the house all 8 years.

Again no one has ever controlled one part of the government as long as the dems controlled the house. Reagan for 8, Clinton for 8, Bush for 8. No real pattern. The Dems controlled the house, and controlled it in a dominating way. They were able to set the direction that America was in with no pause or viable opposition.