Setting Budgets AFTER Free Agency Period Topic

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You can see the list of potential free agents even before rollover. So you have to plan for this during budgeting.
8/8/2010 11:42 AM
Correct, but what about guys in arbitration that don't get released until the last second?

I just can't see the downside of allowing an ADV scouting budget to be set in stone from day 1....  and then allow a "penalty-free" budget transfer period until the day spring training starts.   After spring training starts, lock it back up.  Those HS and COL scouting budgets don't even come into play until the draft anyways...


I feel like I'm penalized for signing these free agents.  If I could transfer some money out of my scouting departments (which I no longer need, because I've signed two of my targets and now my first pick is 101) and put some of that cash toward this final free agent, I would put a very competitive team on the field this year and the next two years.
8/8/2010 12:38 PM
So, basically you want to take all of the off-season strategy out of play and be able to fix any mistakes that you make during the budget period penalty free?
8/8/2010 2:19 PM
If you think about it, in real life teams can change their budgets at any time. But obviously this is a computer game and not real life so who cares. However, why should we have to lock in a part of your budget until that piece of the budget actually comes into play. Lock in advace scouting and IFA scouting day one. Spend whatever you want on coaches but after coach signing that part of budget is locked in rounded up to the nearest $1m. Draft scouting should be locked in before draft list is produced, or after spring training. When that happens your payroll and prospect budget would be set with NO more transfers allowed. I like it.
8/8/2010 3:03 PM

strikeout26 - I just want the game to reflect a more life situation.  If a team needs another million to sign the final piece of the puzzle, they'll figure out a way to get it.  There are people, contrary to popular belief, who love this game but don't have the time to analyze and dissect over 100 prospects each off-season, much less the guy who's dropped during the arbitration period.

And where do you lose any "strategy" by setting you budgets AFTER you make your free agent and coach signings?  If you ever find someone who claims to have won the world series because of a great strategy they had setting budgets, then I'll shut-up.

The way I see it, there's two types of people who benefit from this (and no one who is punished):
1) The guy like me, who is trying to contend right now and needs some financial flexbility to get that last piece of the puzzle.
2) The guy who budgets for a few free agents, swings and misses and has an extra 25 million in player payroll going to waste.  Allow him to take those losses in free agency and turn them into wins with scouting and the draft.

But remember, I strongly support locking those budgets before spring training. 

I just feel that I, as well as everyone, could assemble better teams if their budgets were more flexible.

8/8/2010 7:51 PM (edited)

It just seems like it would make budget setting too easy in my opinion. Budget setting is part of the strategy of the game. If you plan on winning now, go with a higher payroll. If you don't plan on going after any expensive free agents budget accordingly. The difference here between RL and HBD is that in real life teams are not handed 185M to work with. They can scrape up that extra 1M because there is not a cap on how much they spend. You know going into the season whether or not you are going to sign some type A free agents. If you plan on doing this and losing your top picks in the draft adjust your scouting accordingly.

If you want to make scouting realistic, scouts are analyzing players for the well before spring training in real life. They do not start doing this right before spring training or in appollo's eample right before draft day.

 

8/8/2010 9:46 PM
Yea, no.
You know you need X prior to budgetting (or should). You budget for X. You either get X in FA, or you minor league system, or through trade.

Disagree with this premise.
8/9/2010 10:26 AM
Posted by deathinahole on 8/9/2010 10:26:00 AM (view original):
Yea, no.
You know you need X prior to budgetting (or should). You budget for X. You either get X in FA, or you minor league system, or through trade.

Disagree with this premise.
Your post was tough to translate. I don't speak canuck. Who do you disagree with?
8/9/2010 11:37 AM
Yes.
8/9/2010 11:38 AM
Huh?
8/9/2010 11:39 AM
Exactly. It's like you read my mind.
8/9/2010 11:40 AM
my head hurts...
8/9/2010 4:14 PM
Posted by deathinahole on 8/9/2010 10:26:00 AM (view original):
Yea, no.
You know you need X prior to budgetting (or should). You budget for X. You either get X in FA, or you minor league system, or through trade.

Disagree with this premise.
Here's where that's wrong.  You DON'T know what player X is going to go for...  you only know what he's asking.  If he's asking 3 years at 6.8 million, he could easily go for (and did) 3 years at 11 million.  I would've gladly paid more than that for him, but it wasn't in my budget, because of the flexibility.

Could I have taken the 15 million out of my prospect budget and get some more cash?  Sure, but I wouldn't have been able to field a RL team .

The 50% transfer fee is too high and the rigidity of the budgets is handcuffing.  I think the game would add another dimension by allowing flexibility in a few of the categories.
8/9/2010 5:04 PM

I wouldn't really have a problem in principle with player/prospect/coaches portions of the budget being fluid and allowed to transfer back and forth freely until the end of FA - but the other ones should have to be set in advance.

We all have the same fixed amount of resources - budgeting is part of the strategy of the game, and if you screw it up, there should be a penalty - maybe it's a bit too harsh right now - but you're advocating no penalty at all.

8/9/2010 5:17 PM
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