You already have 2 days.  FA re-signing day and arb day.  That's 2 days.  When I pointed that out, you  seemed to suggest 7 days. 

Some owners look to see who'll be a FA next season before making decisions on this year's FA.   By allowing owners to decide later on arb3s, it affects that process.   There really isn't much in this game that doesn't affect something else.

Posted by MikeT23 on 11/2/2011 5:38:00 PM (view original):
You already have 2 days.  FA re-signing day and arb day.  That's 2 days.  When I pointed that out, you  seemed to suggest 7 days. 

This is the very first line I posted in this thread. which was my suggestion..

"Increase the 2 day period during arbitration to sign your own players  to long term contracts."

Why would you need to point that out to me when my suggestion was too increase  from the current 2 days. Obviously I already knew I had 2 days since my suggestion was too increase the current 2 day period... Are you arguing just to argue?

Posted by MikeT23 on 11/2/2011 6:07:00 PM (view original):
Some owners look to see who'll be a FA next season before making decisions on this year's FA.   By allowing owners to decide later on arb3s, it affects that process.   There really isn't much in this game that doesn't affect something else.

Thats a weak argument as I have several possible next season free agents on all my teams that I can resign at any point during the season. A few more players that may be signed a extra week after arb, and 90 days before the next free agent period is not going to effect anyones future seasons decision. You don't even know who is going to be a free agent a couple days before free agency nonetheless 90 days before free agency.........If any owner needs 90 extra days to scout another owners team and be there to prey on someone else outside game misfortune then that person has some major personality problems.

And they are different than what you're suggesting with arb players.    Next year's FA have already signed a contract and it's expiring.   Arb3s are a wild card.  Maybe they'll re-sign, most likely they won't.   Why would I sign a 76 RF to a 4 year deal when I know you have an 88 you arbed three times?   He's going to be a FA no matter what you do.


The key to your request is this:  "It's never affected me until recently when....."    You CAN'T program for every possibility for 2000 people.    Your one day of misfortune shouldn't lead to a change that effectively adds nothing to the game and, quite frankly, may detract from it. 

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Posted by MikeT23 on 11/3/2011 8:09:00 AM (view original):
And they are different than what you're suggesting with arb players.    Next year's FA have already signed a contract and it's expiring.   Arb3s are a wild card.  Maybe they'll re-sign, most likely they won't.   Why would I sign a 76 RF to a 4 year deal when I know you have an 88 you arbed three times?   He's going to be a FA no matter what you do.


The key to your request is this:  "It's never affected me until recently when....."    You CAN'T program for every possibility for 2000 people.    Your one day of misfortune shouldn't lead to a change that effectively adds nothing to the game and, quite frankly, may detract from it. 

I already suggested how you can program for every possibility for 2000 people. Hurts no one helps some people. it's 100% that 7 days will help more people than 2 days.

For someone who usually likes to claim the high road you are really taking the low road right now. Your desire to want to prey on others bad fortune is not your typical MO.

No one is preying on other's misfortune.   As I mentioned earlier, an owner in one of my worlds is on a two week honeymoon.   7 days would not help him.   Someone in a serious car accident will not be helped by 7 days.  I imagine that there are people in Conn right now who would not be helped by 7 days.    And, again, programming your suggestion to help an unfortunate few hurts, or at least bores, the rest of HBD with long waits between activities.  

Also, as I mentioned earlier, it's an internet game.  If real life gets in the way, it's probably more important.   In fact, I'm sure it's more important. 

Posted by MikeT23 on 11/3/2011 6:12:00 PM (view original):
No one is preying on other's misfortune.   As I mentioned earlier, an owner in one of my worlds is on a two week honeymoon.   7 days would not help him.   Someone in a serious car accident will not be helped by 7 days.  I imagine that there are people in Conn right now who would not be helped by 7 days.    And, again, programming your suggestion to help an unfortunate few hurts, or at least bores, the rest of HBD with long waits between activities.  

Also, as I mentioned earlier, it's an internet game.  If real life gets in the way, it's probably more important.   In fact, I'm sure it's more important. 

Are those owners helped by a 2 day period?You will never come up with something that helps everyone. If you make it 2 weeks someone will have a 13 day absence, if you make it 4 weeks someone will have a 5 week absence. 7 days will help more people than 2 days, the percentage of people screwed by outside events will be less if it was 7 days than if it was 2 days.Can you argue that statement? 

  " And, again, programming your suggestion to help an unfortunate few hurts, or at least bores, the rest of HBD with long waits between activities. "

Either you misunderstand my suggestion, or you made a incorrect statement. Nothing else in the schedule changes except  that during free agency period you would also be able to resign your arb eligible(next seasons free agents, not this seasons) players that have the statement  "Aftere taking me to arbitration 3 times I am filing for free agency." That message would be delayed and owners would have a extra 5 days to sign the players. There is no reason for you to be bored, if it does not effect you then don't worry about it, do what you normally do because nothing else changes..
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I am the commish of 2 worlds. The number one(probably 10x more than all the others combined) reasons I hear from people either leaving the world I commish, or from joining a world I commish is time. Some owners have to cut teams, quit altogether, or they cannot take on another team and their reason is they do not have the time. It does not help this game to make the game time challenged when a alternative exists that increases the amount of time for that action without decreasing the time for other actions, or increasing the amount of days in a season.

One example was when we only had 4 days to prepare for the draft. WIS expanded it to 7, you and some others argued against adding 3 days for owners to prepare for the draft. Did the sky fall? Is there some owners who failed to do their list within 7? Yes there is, but you and no one can argue that 7 days did not help more owners than 4 days. This was a suggestion that did not add more days to the season, or did it alter the in season schedule.

My suggestion is not a cure all, but its a piece of the puzzle. You will have more owners playing more teams if you quit making this game time challenged when it can be avoided. When you can decrease the time needed for a particular action and not add days to the game then it should be done........Owners find themselves overwhelmed because of time and either cut teams or quit altogether. Then when a owners world does not fill in a timely manner they want WIS to do something about it. I put forth a suggestion that would help alleviate the problem of time. 

Posted by MikeT23 on 11/2/2011 10:51:00 AM (view original):

Posted by dcbove on 11/2/2011 10:39:00 AM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 11/2/2011 9:39:00 AM (view original):
OK, I see your edit now.

So Arb and FA re-signing at 7 days.    Are you, dcbove, implying that that's not ridiculous?

mike, a civil discussion might Include you reading my posts as opposed to instantly insulting my reading comprehension skills. In the quote above you ask about the ridiculousness of a 7 day arb resigning period.

My response was an example where I describe how some aspects of the arb resigning period (that is, the portion where you sign arb eligible players to long term contracts) could be extended to 7 days or longer. This would result in reducing the negative effects of missing a particular 48 hour period because the user could perform this one particular arb related activity at a later time.

If you weren't editing your posts, or adding new ones, while I was responding, we might see different results.

Nonetheless, I did respond to that.   You can re-sign arb players next season.    One thing that has to be accounted for is jerkoffs ruining teams on their way out.   Allowing owners more time to screw up a team isn't a good thing.   Signing players who will be arb-el next season to LT deals in season would be a good way to do that.  Owners gets mad, in-season, and decides to leave.   Lock the next guy into some deals and leave him no manuverability.   It's unfortunate that this sort of thing needs to be accounted for but it does.

You don't need arb eligible players to destroy a franchise. You can pick a handful of the hundreds of lousy free agents to accomplish the same goal.

As I pointed out earlier, you can extend the resigning of arb eligble players to long term contracts without changing even 1 other part of the in season schedule

I'll leave this thread to you after this:

No schedule, regardless of length of events, will accomodate everyone.   You can't plan for unexpected real world events in a simulated game.  If WifS wants to keep their customer base happy, they'll acknowledge that additional down time to help an unfortunate few, who we can't identify just yet because they haven't had an unexpected real-life event, will not be beneficial to the rest of their membership or the game.

And this thread will die.

here's the important part of your former ticket to admin, plague:  'what I have done multiple times and forget that is the 1 day only that I can sign the player to a long term contract. Missing that one day can lead to ruin for many franchises. Please change this before it happens and not after the fact'


if that's not a 'change it for me' request, then i don't know what is

seems to me like you're saying 'ive fucked arb up before for no good reason but this last time i had a better reason, change it for me'

maybe you should write yourself a note to deal with your arb guys on the day of arbitration from now on?