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We should definitely go after Bill Gates to pay more so Wilma Welfare and Marky Middleclass can buy a 48" HD TV. 

6/10/2014 3:42 PM
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I'd agree if all billionaires gave like Gates and the tax money went to HDTVs. But they don't and it doesn't.
6/10/2014 3:44 PM
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"MAINTAIN MY ROADS, BILL!!!!  I GOTS TO GETS ME SOME NEW SHOES!!!!!"
6/10/2014 4:12 PM
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Found this interesting .... From the CDC website. % of smokers based on education and based on poverty. In particular more than 1 out of 4 people BELOW the poverty line waste money on cigarettes. Why MUST the rich (or any tax payer) WASTE money on those that can't use it to better their livelyhood? Education is another parallel.... We should be spending money educating these people, not on enabling bad, costly habits yet they still collect a check. What good that does.

By Education

24.7% of adults with 12 or less years of education (no diploma)
41.9% of adults with a GED diploma
23.1% of adults with a high school diploma
9.1% of adults with an undergraduate college degree
5.9% of adults with a postgraduate college degree

By Poverty Status

27.9% of adults who live below the poverty level
17.0% of adults who live at or above the poverty level
6/10/2014 4:15 PM
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The tobacco industry sends it's regards.

6/10/2014 4:17 PM
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Posted by MikeT23 on 6/10/2014 4:17:00 PM (view original):

The tobacco industry sends it's regards.

That 27.9% should be sending ME back a rebate. I've got 2 kids going to daycare for over $2000/mo I've got to pay for and uncle Sam isn't helping with that.
6/10/2014 4:27 PM
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Pretty sure you can deduct children on your taxes.   YOU should be sending ME a rebate.    I'm not responsible for you raising your kids. 
6/10/2014 4:30 PM
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Posted by MikeT23 on 6/10/2014 4:30:00 PM (view original):
Pretty sure you can deduct children on your taxes.   YOU should be sending ME a rebate.    I'm not responsible for you raising your kids. 
At least I'm 'raising' them. I don't have a problem helping people that actually give a **** about themselves and others.
6/10/2014 4:37 PM
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Posted by moy23 on 6/10/2014 4:27:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 6/10/2014 4:17:00 PM (view original):

The tobacco industry sends it's regards.

That 27.9% should be sending ME back a rebate. I've got 2 kids going to daycare for over $2000/mo I've got to pay for and uncle Sam isn't helping with that.
Are cigarettes illegal?
6/10/2014 4:37 PM
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Posted by moy23 on 6/10/2014 4:37:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 6/10/2014 4:30:00 PM (view original):
Pretty sure you can deduct children on your taxes.   YOU should be sending ME a rebate.    I'm not responsible for you raising your kids. 
At least I'm 'raising' them. I don't have a problem helping people that actually give a **** about themselves and others.
Are you?  Sounds like you're dropping 'em off for someone else to raise. 
6/10/2014 4:39 PM
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Posted by bad_luck on 6/10/2014 4:37:00 PM (view original):
Posted by moy23 on 6/10/2014 4:27:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 6/10/2014 4:17:00 PM (view original):

The tobacco industry sends it's regards.

That 27.9% should be sending ME back a rebate. I've got 2 kids going to daycare for over $2000/mo I've got to pay for and uncle Sam isn't helping with that.
Are cigarettes illegal?
Nope .... Nor are casinos and lottery tickets.... But all three are a complete waste of money, bad investments. Why should I support habits I disagree with? Did you like supporting a war in Iraq?
6/10/2014 4:40 PM
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Posted by moy23 on 6/10/2014 4:17:00 PM (view original):
Found this interesting .... From the CDC website. % of smokers based on education and based on poverty. In particular more than 1 out of 4 people BELOW the poverty line waste money on cigarettes. Why MUST the rich (or any tax payer) WASTE money on those that can't use it to better their livelyhood? Education is another parallel.... We should be spending money educating these people, not on enabling bad, costly habits yet they still collect a check. What good that does.

By Education

24.7% of adults with 12 or less years of education (no diploma)
41.9% of adults with a GED diploma
23.1% of adults with a high school diploma
9.1% of adults with an undergraduate college degree
5.9% of adults with a postgraduate college degree

By Poverty Status

27.9% of adults who live below the poverty level
17.0% of adults who live at or above the poverty level
I'm all for ways to help the poor better use the money they do have.  Smoking is dumb.


6/10/2014 4:41 PM
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Posted by burnsy483 on 6/10/2014 4:41:00 PM (view original):
Posted by moy23 on 6/10/2014 4:17:00 PM (view original):
Found this interesting .... From the CDC website. % of smokers based on education and based on poverty. In particular more than 1 out of 4 people BELOW the poverty line waste money on cigarettes. Why MUST the rich (or any tax payer) WASTE money on those that can't use it to better their livelyhood? Education is another parallel.... We should be spending money educating these people, not on enabling bad, costly habits yet they still collect a check. What good that does.

By Education

24.7% of adults with 12 or less years of education (no diploma)
41.9% of adults with a GED diploma
23.1% of adults with a high school diploma
9.1% of adults with an undergraduate college degree
5.9% of adults with a postgraduate college degree

By Poverty Status

27.9% of adults who live below the poverty level
17.0% of adults who live at or above the poverty level
I'm all for ways to help the poor better use the money they do have.  Smoking is dumb.


So now you want to tell the poor and the rich how to use their money?

OK then. 
6/10/2014 4:42 PM
MikeT23
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What income group can decide, on their own, how to use their money?
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I'm not for banning cigarettes to those who make less than X dollars, if that's what you think I'm saying.
6/10/2014 4:43 PM
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