Posted by vandydave on 10/27/2010 1:40:00 PM (view original):
he'll eventually get in

seem kinda religiously biased doesn't it?

Posted by r0b0t on 10/27/2010 1:49:00 PM (view original):

Posted by antonsirius on 10/27/2010 1:17:00 PM (view original):

Posted by r0b0t on 10/27/2010 11:33:00 AM:
I think our difference of opinion largely stems from me thinking that certain players' high contact/power can make up for lower than preferred splits. I feel like having a guy who is 80/80/60/60 or even 80/80/50/50 might statistically outperform someone who is 60/60/80/80.

Case in point, Mitch Wilkerson, who gave me a couple of solid (800-850 OPS in a homer-killing park) seasons when I started in HR.

I just got to the point where I realized any combination of the contact, power, and splits would be effective. You can lack in one area if you're strong in the others. So I feel like I can build teams accordingly and maybe get some guys I can use for cheaper from guys who would write them off otherwise.

agree. I have no prob getting guys like Wilfredo Gonzales @ 90/70/65/80/90 <--- 65 being vLHP


Gonzales is a .305-30-110ish hitter the last 7 seasons, 6 time all-star, 2 time Gold-Golve CF, 4 time Silver Slugger CF, MVP candidate every season and apparently most owners see his splits and think he sucks.... its that or his contract/age. I haven't been throwing out terrible deals... in most cases you guys think I give away too much in trades.

Posted by vandydave on 10/27/2010 1:56:00 PM (view original):

Posted by r0b0t on 10/27/2010 1:49:00 PM (view original):

Posted by antonsirius on 10/27/2010 1:17:00 PM (view original):

Posted by r0b0t on 10/27/2010 11:33:00 AM:
I think our difference of opinion largely stems from me thinking that certain players' high contact/power can make up for lower than preferred splits. I feel like having a guy who is 80/80/60/60 or even 80/80/50/50 might statistically outperform someone who is 60/60/80/80.

Case in point, Mitch Wilkerson, who gave me a couple of solid (800-850 OPS in a homer-killing park) seasons when I started in HR.

I just got to the point where I realized any combination of the contact, power, and splits would be effective. You can lack in one area if you're strong in the others. So I feel like I can build teams accordingly and maybe get some guys I can use for cheaper from guys who would write them off otherwise.

i traded for an OF in Minors who that doesnt work for. like 90/90 in hitting but 50/45 in splits. he's terrible

I think BE should really be in this discussion too.

Posted by vandydave on 10/27/2010 1:56:00 PM (view original):

Posted by r0b0t on 10/27/2010 1:49:00 PM (view original):

Posted by antonsirius on 10/27/2010 1:17:00 PM (view original):

Posted by r0b0t on 10/27/2010 11:33:00 AM:
I think our difference of opinion largely stems from me thinking that certain players' high contact/power can make up for lower than preferred splits. I feel like having a guy who is 80/80/60/60 or even 80/80/50/50 might statistically outperform someone who is 60/60/80/80.

Case in point, Mitch Wilkerson, who gave me a couple of solid (800-850 OPS in a homer-killing park) seasons when I started in HR.

I just got to the point where I realized any combination of the contact, power, and splits would be effective. You can lack in one area if you're strong in the others. So I feel like I can build teams accordingly and maybe get some guys I can use for cheaper from guys who would write them off otherwise.

i traded for an OF in Minors who that doesnt work for. like 90/90 in hitting but 50/45 in splits. he's terrible

Thats similar to my first round draft pick in season 1; very high power, solid contact and eye from what I remember, and splits in the 50/40 range.  After one strong rookie year, he drifted into oblivion fast.  I feel that high splits can overcome weaker contact/power moreso than high contact/power can overcome weaker splits

Come on, Dave, you're not even trying.

Posted by dmurphy104 on 10/27/2010 1:53:00 PM (view original):
Lesliechow is the alias of the dude that trashed all their teams and got banned..can't remember that user's name however

dmurphy104?

Posted by moy23 on 10/27/2010 2:01:00 PM (view original):

Posted by r0b0t on 10/27/2010 1:49:00 PM (view original):

Posted by antonsirius on 10/27/2010 1:17:00 PM (view original):

Posted by r0b0t on 10/27/2010 11:33:00 AM:
I think our difference of opinion largely stems from me thinking that certain players' high contact/power can make up for lower than preferred splits. I feel like having a guy who is 80/80/60/60 or even 80/80/50/50 might statistically outperform someone who is 60/60/80/80.

Case in point, Mitch Wilkerson, who gave me a couple of solid (800-850 OPS in a homer-killing park) seasons when I started in HR.

I just got to the point where I realized any combination of the contact, power, and splits would be effective. You can lack in one area if you're strong in the others. So I feel like I can build teams accordingly and maybe get some guys I can use for cheaper from guys who would write them off otherwise.

agree. I have no prob getting guys like Wilfredo Gonzales @ 90/70/65/80/90 <--- 65 being vLHP


Gonzales is a .305-30-110ish hitter the last 7 seasons, 6 time all-star, 2 time Gold-Golve CF, 4 time Silver Slugger CF, MVP candidate every season and apparently most owners see his splits and think he sucks.... its that or his contract/age. I haven't been throwing out terrible deals... in most cases you guys think I give away too much in trades.

Oh, moy.

Posted by dmurphy104 on 10/27/2010 1:53:00 PM (view original):
Lesliechow is the alias of the dude that trashed all their teams and got banned..can't remember that user's name however

Caracarn

Isn't Almanzar their king?

Posted by antonsirius on 10/27/2010 2:13:00 PM (view original):

Posted by moy23 on 10/27/2010 2:01:00 PM (view original):

Posted by r0b0t on 10/27/2010 1:49:00 PM (view original):

Posted by antonsirius on 10/27/2010 1:17:00 PM (view original):

Posted by r0b0t on 10/27/2010 11:33:00 AM:
I think our difference of opinion largely stems from me thinking that certain players' high contact/power can make up for lower than preferred splits. I feel like having a guy who is 80/80/60/60 or even 80/80/50/50 might statistically outperform someone who is 60/60/80/80.

Case in point, Mitch Wilkerson, who gave me a couple of solid (800-850 OPS in a homer-killing park) seasons when I started in HR.

I just got to the point where I realized any combination of the contact, power, and splits would be effective. You can lack in one area if you're strong in the others. So I feel like I can build teams accordingly and maybe get some guys I can use for cheaper from guys who would write them off otherwise.

agree. I have no prob getting guys like Wilfredo Gonzales @ 90/70/65/80/90 <--- 65 being vLHP


Gonzales is a .305-30-110ish hitter the last 7 seasons, 6 time all-star, 2 time Gold-Golve CF, 4 time Silver Slugger CF, MVP candidate every season and apparently most owners see his splits and think he sucks.... its that or his contract/age. I haven't been throwing out terrible deals... in most cases you guys think I give away too much in trades.

Oh, moy.

I am having a self-pity party

Posted by moy23 on 10/27/2010 1:52:00 PM (view original):
Salem is still the AL team to beat. Best Reg Season record the last two seasons and WS loss, WS win to boot. Pretty much the same team all three seasons. The Robin Leonard / Tanner Miller bash brothers connection will be fun to watch and they are well protected with high average/high walks Chavez (or whatever my C's name is) in front and Gonzales/Offerman behind them. And don't forget - Hootie!

KC is better

This started with a Honolulu discussion, so I guess David Caballero is one of the players in question?

Despite my team's numbers, that is in a pitcher's park that he's putting up an OPS that high.

Posted by r0b0t on 10/27/2010 1:52:00 PM (view original):
http://www.whatifsports.com/HBD/Pages/Popups/PlayerProfile.aspx?pid=2385135

I guess...  I can find a crap ton of people in the 60/60/80/80/80 mold with good numbers too.  Both work, just a matter of tastes.  I will say that I go with the splits/batting eye guys and it has been pretty damn successful for me.

Posted by moy23 on 10/27/2010 2:01:00 PM (view original):

Posted by r0b0t on 10/27/2010 1:49:00 PM (view original):

Posted by antonsirius on 10/27/2010 1:17:00 PM (view original):

Posted by r0b0t on 10/27/2010 11:33:00 AM:
I think our difference of opinion largely stems from me thinking that certain players' high contact/power can make up for lower than preferred splits. I feel like having a guy who is 80/80/60/60 or even 80/80/50/50 might statistically outperform someone who is 60/60/80/80.

Case in point, Mitch Wilkerson, who gave me a couple of solid (800-850 OPS in a homer-killing park) seasons when I started in HR.

I just got to the point where I realized any combination of the contact, power, and splits would be effective. You can lack in one area if you're strong in the others. So I feel like I can build teams accordingly and maybe get some guys I can use for cheaper from guys who would write them off otherwise.

agree. I have no prob getting guys like Wilfredo Gonzales @ 90/70/65/80/90 <--- 65 being vLHP


Gonzales is a .305-30-110ish hitter the last 7 seasons, 6 time all-star, 2 time Gold-Golve CF, 4 time Silver Slugger CF, MVP candidate every season and apparently most owners see his splits and think he sucks.... its that or his contract/age. I haven't been throwing out terrible deals... in most cases you guys think I give away too much in trades.

Gonzalez doesn't really belong in this discussion as he is neither type of player.

Posted by dherz_263 on 10/27/2010 2:10:00 PM (view original):

Posted by vandydave on 10/27/2010 1:56:00 PM (view original):

Posted by r0b0t on 10/27/2010 1:49:00 PM (view original):

Posted by antonsirius on 10/27/2010 1:17:00 PM (view original):

Posted by r0b0t on 10/27/2010 11:33:00 AM:
I think our difference of opinion largely stems from me thinking that certain players' high contact/power can make up for lower than preferred splits. I feel like having a guy who is 80/80/60/60 or even 80/80/50/50 might statistically outperform someone who is 60/60/80/80.

Case in point, Mitch Wilkerson, who gave me a couple of solid (800-850 OPS in a homer-killing park) seasons when I started in HR.

I just got to the point where I realized any combination of the contact, power, and splits would be effective. You can lack in one area if you're strong in the others. So I feel like I can build teams accordingly and maybe get some guys I can use for cheaper from guys who would write them off otherwise.

i traded for an OF in Minors who that doesnt work for. like 90/90 in hitting but 50/45 in splits. he's terrible

Thats similar to my first round draft pick in season 1; very high power, solid contact and eye from what I remember, and splits in the 50/40 range.  After one strong rookie year, he drifted into oblivion fast.  I feel that high splits can overcome weaker contact/power moreso than high contact/power can overcome weaker splits

Agree.