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I still like my Montgomery team this season, but moreso in the next few seasons. Filtering them by current rating, it shows solid pipelines coming in.
10/27/2010 2:20 PM
Harry Merced is right around that 80/80/60/60 threshhold discussed earlier. Looking at his statistics, it's hard to really say that player doesn't hold definite value...
10/27/2010 2:23 PM
Posted by robusk on 10/27/2010 2:16:00 PM (view original):
Posted by moy23 on 10/27/2010 1:52:00 PM (view original):
Salem is still the AL team to beat. Best Reg Season record the last two seasons and WS loss, WS win to boot. Pretty much the same team all three seasons. The Robin Leonard / Tanner Miller bash brothers connection will be fun to watch and they are well protected with high average/high walks Chavez (or whatever my C's name is) in front and Gonzales/Offerman behind them. And don't forget - Hootie!
KC is better
and last season I heard how all the other teams in the AL improved more than salem after FA... its the same old story. I suppose its kinda nice not being the favorite....it just ****** more people off when I win.
10/27/2010 2:25 PM
Posted by r0b0t on 10/27/2010 2:18:00 PM (view original):

This started with a Honolulu discussion, so I guess David Caballero is one of the players in question?

Despite my team's numbers, that is in a pitcher's park that he's putting up an OPS that high.

A couple of things:  First, I would feel uneasy having that guy on my team, despite those numbers.  Not my sort of guy...  although being lefthanded works well with those particular splits.  Also, .829 career OPS is not awesome for a COF.  Probably makes him about average considering the park.  Lastly, high contact/power guys seems to generate a higher OVR than middling contact/power high splits and eye guys...  makes it harder to get them on the cheap in my experiences.  I also sort of the contact is the least important rating in a hitter for me.
10/27/2010 2:25 PM

As stated earlier, I generally value players from both backgrounds. I find the players with the higher splits to generally be more consistent with their production. You'll see the marked difference in AVG and OBP.

However,  guys with strong contact and power seem to prevail in SLG by a larger margin than they're losing in OBP, provided they have a good eye. They are largely inconsistent and not dependable, so I really have reservations of that Honolulu team really making a deep playoff run, but when those players produce they can put up some really gawdy numbers for extended stretches.
 

10/27/2010 2:26 PM
www.wisjournal.com/HBD/Pages/Popups/PlayerProfile.aspx

Look at this guy I was using in a pinch in DM.  Playing in a very extreme pitchers park (Iowa City) and those are pretty awesome number given how little I had to pay him and being in that park.
10/27/2010 2:30 PM (edited)
Posted by r0b0t on 10/27/2010 2:23:00 PM (view original):
Harry Merced is right around that 80/80/60/60 threshhold discussed earlier. Looking at his statistics, it's hard to really say that player doesn't hold definite value...
Start using wisjournal.

It is a pain for me to have to change the links and I am clearly the most important.
10/27/2010 2:28 PM
Posted by r0b0t on 10/27/2010 2:26:00 PM (view original):

As stated earlier, I generally value players from both backgrounds. I find the players with the higher splits to generally be more consistent with their production. You'll see the marked difference in AVG and OBP.

However,  guys with strong contact and power seem to prevail in SLG by a larger margin than they're losing in OBP, provided they have a good eye. They are largely inconsistent and not dependable, so I really have reservations of that Honolulu team really making a deep playoff run, but when those players produce they can put up some really gawdy numbers for extended stretches.
 

I thought in your original claim, the guys in question had a bad eye.  Didn't you say an 80/80/50/50/50 guy?

Eye is the most important rating to me.
10/27/2010 2:29 PM
Posted by robusk on 10/27/2010 2:25:00 PM (view original):
Posted by r0b0t on 10/27/2010 2:18:00 PM (view original):

This started with a Honolulu discussion, so I guess David Caballero is one of the players in question?

Despite my team's numbers, that is in a pitcher's park that he's putting up an OPS that high.

A couple of things:  First, I would feel uneasy having that guy on my team, despite those numbers.  Not my sort of guy...  although being lefthanded works well with those particular splits.  Also, .829 career OPS is not awesome for a COF.  Probably makes him about average considering the park.  Lastly, high contact/power guys seems to generate a higher OVR than middling contact/power high splits and eye guys...  makes it harder to get them on the cheap in my experiences.  I also sort of the contact is the least important rating in a hitter for me.
I don't think that's the case, because by and large the players with higher splits tend to be higher overall ratings. Looking at internationals, they tend to produce higher contractual demands. They seem to ask me more money in arbitration than contact/power guys. Looking at the draft, guys with high contact/power tend to drop more than guys with high splits. I just seem to notice the opposite trend.
10/27/2010 2:30 PM
Posted by robusk on 10/27/2010 2:29:00 PM (view original):
Posted by r0b0t on 10/27/2010 2:26:00 PM (view original):

As stated earlier, I generally value players from both backgrounds. I find the players with the higher splits to generally be more consistent with their production. You'll see the marked difference in AVG and OBP.

However,  guys with strong contact and power seem to prevail in SLG by a larger margin than they're losing in OBP, provided they have a good eye. They are largely inconsistent and not dependable, so I really have reservations of that Honolulu team really making a deep playoff run, but when those players produce they can put up some really gawdy numbers for extended stretches.
 

I thought in your original claim, the guys in question had a bad eye.  Didn't you say an 80/80/50/50/50 guy?

Eye is the most important rating to me.
Eye was never brought up with those figures, because it always holds a higher quantifiable value, because you'll see how it directly affects the statistics.
10/27/2010 2:31 PM
what the hell is wisjournal?
10/27/2010 2:32 PM
I just use the link from their profile.
10/27/2010 2:32 PM
Made another trade.
10/27/2010 2:52 PM
Posted by r0b0t on 10/27/2010 2:52:00 PM (view original):
Made another trade.
nice one
10/27/2010 3:02 PM

Seriously?

I guess they're all 20-25 on the 25 man roster, usually. So I'm not particularly thrilled, but I felt like I cleared some cap room and got some space on my roster for one of my ML ready prospects. And down the line I got a decent bat, a back-end innings eating pitcher, and a defensive/pinch-running dynamo.

10/27/2010 3:05 PM
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